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Lindo, I haven't seen the lineup, but if you had a 4 inferno advantage, and 6 to 8 xbow advantage then it would only make sense that they would have an offensive advantage. There is nothing wrong with sacrificing some defense for more offense. Some clans take it to far where they are able to match max th11's with th9's, but they are rare. With that being said. I like your you tube videos. I have even shared a couple of them with my clan. keep up the good work!
Hey mushroom! Thanks for the compliment bro, means a lot. I dont wanna write out the whole lineup, but we definitely didnt have an offensive advantage. Their 1 was a fully max th11 offense and defense. I was 1 and had 41/33/10 and all my defenses are th10 max. Except 1 cannon and 1 arch tower (lvl 12). Their 2 was a 10.5, with 41/40/20 and fully maxed walls and defenses for th10. Our 2 is th10 with 31/30, not maxed defenses. Their 3 had 40/42/20, and had no eagle and no ferno, but maxed all his other defenses except splash. Our 3 has 20/20, level 2 fernos, and not a third xbow yet. Our 4 has 1 inferno and 25/22. They had a couple 9.5's with 5 spells in the top 10. Our th9's started at number 5. Our only advantage defensively was from like number 12-16. When i tell you they all had monster heroes, they all had 30 and high 20's heroes. It was just about unwinnable. I had to 3 star their 1, tough action. But we knew we couldnt win, so we tried different attacks. They won 74-71.Quote:
Originally Posted by ccmushroom
This is very unfortunate. I hope SC can use this scenario as a case study. Btw, how long did it take the search to match with them?
About a half hour, maybe lessQuote:
Originally Posted by Yachi
SO i went to the enemy clan of DL to see the match and they did indeed have the offensive advantage and a slight defensive advantage up top.
However DL left out some facts about the outcome of the war... the enemy clan JOEMAMA did not even need the full th11 offensive advantage they had in their 2 and 3 to win.
Why do I say this? Well... after a scout attack from their bottom guy their 1 hit their 1 and 2 for 99% and 100% respectively. After that, their 2 practiced on DL's 1 and 2 and their 3 did not attack at all. The rest of the bases were cleared with even hits and were evenly matched.
Another thing i'd like to add, their 1-3 had great anti 3 star bases, while DL's 1 had a standard ring base which is tricky for inexperienced players and average guys but not for good players like the enemy's number 1. If DL's 1 had a stronger base layout , they could have turned the tide.
Now, another thing... DL's 1 has bad offense defense ratio. He has a L2 eagle, mostly th10 defense but not great heroes for his ratio. In short, hes the kind of base engineered clans see if they have a th11...
However, he still has the capability to have tripled their 2 and DL's clan failed to 3 star a th11 without infernos.
So, now lets get hypothetical. Replace the enemy's 2 and 3 with similiar weighted th10s and the enemy clan would still have won because they had superior bases and attacks.
So in conclusion, while the enemy clan had an advantage, they did not even need it to win agaisnt DL and were thus the superior clan .
To DL...
Are you able to accept that they were a better clan or will you just blame the matchmaker for giving you a tough match that forced you guys to bring your best?
Well that was a well thought out post supreme, i appreciate it. But we were heavily disadvantaged, so the mm was to blame. Their 1 was fully maxed th11. Their 2 was a really strong 10.5. I was 1 and not even close to max. And our 2 is a th10 with 31/30 heroes, not close to maxed. Their 3 didnt have fernos or eagle, but he maxed his other defenses, but he shoulda been cleared. But dont forget the sequence of the war, we were drawing dead and thus didnt care about the attack on 3 at the end. Our advantage was from 12-16, who cares. They had severe offensive advantage. They 99% me and almost perfected me. We couldnt have won. To say they had an offensive advantage, is an understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeCleave
Thank you. I know they had the advantage but my point was even without it they would have won since they did not even need their 2 and 3 to attack. thats why i think they deserve kudos. even with a big advantage, they did not even use it and won handily because of superior skills and attacks
How does winning, or single base outcome, have anything to do with fairness?Quote:
Originally Posted by daddylindo
I get so sick of people saying "You cheated! I know you did, because you beat me!"
So.....the only way I could possibly beat you is by cheating? Sounds like that game is rigged against me.
While I see your point, Supreme, you must also consider that with an offensive disadvantage, DL's clan is forced to change their attack styles. For instance, with fewer offensive attacks, the top bases may be forced use a safe 2 star strategy, rather than a solid full attack, while their opponent may have 4 chances to triple an opponent before they even consider going the safe method.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeCleave
The MM certainly does play a role in Outcome.
That said, it sounds like this clan didn't need their extra attacks, and has some better attackers.
One of the, if not the most respected forumers just came to my clan and looked at the war. He'll write his analogy in here later. I dont understand your post. You are clueless as to the situation, so dont come in here and write nonsense like that. One clan should not have such an advantage as they did. The best we couldve done is tie stars and lose on percentage. Thats the best we coulda done. Is that fair? I guess you 3 star max th11's all the time. Come by and show me how its done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Upgrayyyyyyyyd