Possible solution to engineered bases

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January 15th, 2017
crawfish

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Originally Posted by NeoGen

Threads like this will continue to appear, as more and more people get annoyed, our last 2 wars were ridiculously mismatched due to engineering, the first saw us against 2 TH11 and 5 TH10 plus over 20 TH9’s all engineered against our 2 TH10’s and 14 TH9’s, needless to say we were crushed buy 100% the 11 was pretty well maxed to TH10 and all the 10’s had 3 Bows. all you engineerers out their you can try to justify your methods as much as you want but at the end of the day, you couldn’t win a fair fight if your life depended on it. To quote SCC on this subject: “This is against the spirit of the game and a cowards way for winning the game” I live in hope that SCC are as they say pulling all-nighters to solving this problem, but alas I think I may die in despair before anything is done. You cannot justify manipulating something to such a degree it gives you an unfair advantage.

How many times that you crushed the opponent with your .5 and defenceless bases. How's the taste of your own medicine?
January 15th, 2017
Krzeng9

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Originally Posted by NeoGen

Threads like this will continue to appear, as more and more people get annoyed, our last 2 wars were ridiculously mismatched due to engineering, the first saw us against 2 TH11 and 5 TH10 plus over 20 TH9’s all engineered against our 2 TH10’s and 14 TH9’s, needless to say we were crushed buy 100% the 11 was pretty well maxed to TH10 and all the 10’s had 3 Bows. all you engineerers out their you can try to justify your methods as much as you want but at the end of the day, you couldn’t win a fair fight if your life depended on it. To quote SCC on this subject: “This is against the spirit of the game and a cowards way for winning the game” I live in hope that SCC are as they say pulling all-nighters to solving this problem, but alas I think I may die in despair before anything is done. You cannot justify manipulating something to such a degree it gives you an unfair advantage.

I'd like to see the source for that quote given the grammar is wrong.
January 15th, 2017
SupremeCleave

if it makes anyone feel better, we apologized in our description for matching them so it makes it ok.
January 15th, 2017
NeoGen

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Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit

Where did SC say it was a cowards way? I believe you are misquoting there.

In a response to an email I sent them.

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Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit

Also unless you have personal experience engineering you have no idea how SC has changed to make it much harder for them.

I have enough experience and knowledge to know that what has done has had very little impact overall to the war matchmaking.

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Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit

The still have an advantage cause its off>def. And to clans that are def>off the is still a good advantage.

The way the game is designed, the ability to build/upgrade up to 5 buildings at once compared to upgrade 1 spell/troop at once will always lead to an imbalance if a person is not aware of the intricacies of weighting in war between offence and defence.

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Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit

Here's another idea. Stop blaming others for your misfortune and look and say gee maybe I should have few 3* war attacks before I max my defenses at this th. The my off will be greater than my defense.

I'm guessing you're speaking from experience here, you sound very rushed oh no wait, sorry 'Engineered' I myself have over 1000 war stars, regularly 3 star maxed TH9 as a maxed TH9 myself and have decided to go fishing instead of insulting you.

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Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit

FYI anyone on the "wall hero" grind at th9/10 usually has their defenses maxed and therefor their def>off. That is most people's major problem right there and why those who skip that part are labeled as engineers and unfair.

Thats rubbish and you know it, people for what ever poor excuse they come up with, "I like a nice clean base", "I don't want to wait for all this horrid defence to upgrade", at the end of the day the only way they can get a good win streak in their clan is by manipulating it to give them a strong advantage. I as others have stated, have no desire for the ability of engineering your base how you see fit to stop, I believe people should be able to build the base they want, but you guys must think we are green as we are cabbage looking if you think we believe it is for any other reason than cheating the system.

Funny that prior to the realisation that people could win wars using this method there were hardly any engineered bases, and lets see how many survive after SC do fix it, because like the TH sniping and DE zapping, they will fix the imbalance in war matchmaking.
January 15th, 2017
NeoGen

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Originally Posted by topbtm

I may add, some of the most vocal anti-engineers are modders, closet-modders or modder sympathisers. Oh the hypocrisy: breaking the rules of the game is more acceptable in their eyes, than exploiting the game mechanics within the rules of the game... BTW, it is debatable whether engineers succeed in exploiting the advantage - I don't think so. And I have yet to see ANYONE who can show me that engineers gain a CONSISTENT advantage in the mm. One mismatch advantage in 5 wars is not CONSISTENT and not a proof of anything.

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Originally Posted by BbaBaba123

I find this hard to believe.

Me too, if anything I would say it was the other way round, someone exploiting the system one way, will always look to exploit the system another way
January 15th, 2017
NeoGen

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Originally Posted by Krzeng9

I'd like to see the source for that quote given the grammar is wrong.

As stated in a previous post, it was via email and in response to one I sent.
January 15th, 2017
silversnake33

my clan forum bound never sees engineers and when we did they had 1 defenceless th8
January 15th, 2017
topbtm

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Originally Posted by NeoGen

Me too, if anything I would say it was the other way round, someone exploiting the system one way, will always look to exploit the system another way

To quote some of most vocal anti engineers: "what is the fun in beating 2 th level below....or beating on kids..."
therefore why would any freaking engineers be bothered with using mods? Think please.
January 15th, 2017
topbtm

https://forum-content.supercell.com/...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by MrJackrabbit https://forum-content.supercell.com/...post-right.png
Also unless you have personal experience engineering you have no idea how SC has changed to make it much harder for them.

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Originally Posted by NeoGen

In a response to an email I sent them.

I have enough experience and knowledge to know that what has done has had very little impact overall to the war matchmaking.

Really? LOL. That is why many anti-engineers have zero credibility...cause you have no idea what you are talking about, and proudly admitting to it so as well.
January 15th, 2017
KingKreg

I think it's funny how the people who already built all the defenses call it manipulating and the ones who started a fresh new base after they realized what was going on, call it being smart.

I hate when people say it's like a pro football star playing with high school kids... NO it's like an out of shape fat guy fighting a lean mean fighting machine!!!!!

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