An open statement from a $500+ gem buyer

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Originally Posted by Rauta

The example I made was of TH level 8 attacking TH level 6. In that situation the twice as hard works, but not in a situation your describing. Also, I wouldn't recommend trying to play 16 hours non-stop.

How is your mines and collectors? Maxed out collectors produce I think 360k elixir a day (correct me if I am wrong, been a long day). That should cover at least 9 attacks, even if you strike zero profit.

Also, when you log out with 500k, the enemy will not be able to steal the full 500k from you. Let's assume he'd steal 150k form you (which is alot to steal as you probably know), you would still be left with 350k the next day to start raiding with. Like I said, it's gonna take longer, but it is still possible.

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Made some statistics Playing yesterday. Used 300k on hitting next button but still earned a bit gold so thats not the actually problem. In order to win elixir ill have to win about 45k elixir, that happened 2 times in those approximately 600 Rolls. Both being lvl 60+ players, since im only lvl 43 thats quite a match for me. Offcourse you Can rely on the collectors and the 360k, but no lvl 43 has full upgrades on those. Then as a lvl 43 with th8 i Can be pretty sure to be nuked at least twice a Day When sleeping/Working. Basicly I only have left for like 3 Battles, and another 2-3 on the earnings from those. I dont mind the extra Work to get the ressources but I really dont see how id ever get ressources for the elixir upgrades. Dont mind buying gems, but buying it ALL with gems is a bit to much. Thats why I feel im really stuck with this new upgrade.

There maths don't add up we know. I want a tesla it's 1mil at the current rate I gain resources this will take me about 3 weeks I think. Not fully upgraded mines but have 2 lvl 10 3rd upgrading ATM rest lvl 8 or 9 but factor in my town hall level 8 with level 6 defences ill get owned long before I get to 1 mil players with hit 38% steal and leave some for next guys. Btw Rauta that needs addressing aswell.

so it will take months or I buy my way to it :(, not really the way to play the game and think supercell agree.

so lets hope new update when it's launched atleast allows me to find players around my level and skill to fight for each other resources.

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Originally Posted by cadava

I'd also like to add, I've been playing today since 7:30 am... It's almost 1:30 here... So, 6 hours. In 6 hours, I have 194,888 gold, and 120,863 elix.... I've also bought 10% elix a couple hours ago with gems...

Food for thought. My account in game is the same as on here if you'd like to look at it and confirm what I've stated.

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I must be doing something differently then, I am in the mid 1400's with a town hall level 8 and have added 3/4 of a million in 6 hours and added 600k elixer.

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Originally Posted by griffey

I must be doing something differently then, I am in the mid 1400's with a town hall level 8 and have added 3/4 of a million in 6 hours and added 600k elixer.

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I played for about 4 hours and battle etc resulted in 225k and 250k gold elixir. Already had 50k gold and 100k elixir so a profit of 175k and 150k after 4 hours of battling and collectors.

i used the loot to upgrade 3 walls and a barracks to use up the 240k elixir. Or I'd have lost a lot as I sleep, which is the problem grouping mid level 8's with the fully upgraded level 8's they take so much yet it costs them so little.

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Originally Posted by Teddstrom

the solution is simple. base all matches on current experience level. those that chose to use low level equipment and have high experience will pay will have to deal with the choices they make. they either need to upgrade (buy gems) or fight the battle as best they can. the game is about war not farming. if you are waiting for resources to be built up by mining resources, then it is no wonder that you keep getting looted to the last penny. you should think about playing hay-day and not COC. I think the game was balanced well enough before the last patch. It is not up to supercell to change the game so those that make poor choices will also win. someone has to lose and that is base on the choices you make. Make bad choice and you lose, learn, change and move on. It is kind of ridiculouse to think that supercell is changing the program to accomodate those that make bad choices while at the same time condemn those that make game winning choices. That seems a little counter productive. It seems a shame that such a greate game is crashing. I hope supercell is learning from this or they may find themselves in the same place.

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Seems my bad choice was to pay for my town hall upgrades before my base was ready for this update :( I'm paying now..punishment successful...

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Originally Posted by crikeyimtrueblue

Seems my bad choice was to pay for my town hall upgrades before my base was ready for this update :( I'm paying now..punishment successful...

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Ditto - Classed now as mid level player :(

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Originally Posted by Rauta

Nice post indeed. And thanks for the feedback.

The amount of trophies you have should represent your "strength" in both defense and offense. That is of course if you don't intentionally try to drop it. I still believe that the trophy system can work and can be representation of the strength of a player, as we've now tried to get rid of the incentive to drop it. Sure, you can still adjust it to find a sweetspot where the opponents are more around your town hall level, but then again that is a good thing from our perspective as it keeps the game challenging.

Peace out!

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then please get rid of the option to fight players 2 or more town hall levels bellow us, it is ridiculous that we hae to hit next upwards of 30 times to find a base with even four digit resources to steal, i am tried of going into debt on 70% of my raids

Why would you even spend so much money on the game, if you know it's bad? Before the last update, I finally gave in and spent 5 bucks to upgrade my town hall, because 1) I won a two free $50 iTunes Gift Cards at a raffle, and 2) It was either that or delete the game that I had once loved, before the developers completely ruined it with their selfishness. Funnily enough, 2.73 came out the next day, and I vow never to spend a single penny on this game.

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Originally Posted by Mate

Made some statistics Playing yesterday. Used 300k on hitting next button but still earned a bit gold so thats not the actually problem. In order to win elixir ill have to win about 45k elixir, that happened 2 times in those approximately 600 Rolls. Both being lvl 60+ players, since im only lvl 43 thats quite a match for me. Offcourse you Can rely on the collectors and the 360k, but no lvl 43 has full upgrades on those. Then as a lvl 43 with th8 i Can be pretty sure to be nuked at least twice a Day When sleeping/Working. Basicly I only have left for like 3 Battles, and another 2-3 on the earnings from those. I dont mind the extra Work to get the ressources but I really dont see how id ever get ressources for the elixir upgrades. Dont mind buying gems, but buying it ALL with gems is a bit to much. Thats why I feel im really stuck with this new upgrade.

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Most people don't have maxed out collectors. I can't find the post with the math but since they don't produce while upgrading and only increase production what... 300 an hour per level, it takes like 35 days to make up just the upgrade time. I'm working on mine now because it's all I have left and extra hit points to slow down attackers. 40k was used in the examples, but up top - 150k is a more realistic figure per attack and collectors don't cut it anyhow. They need to make enough for your first attack of the day, then you have to survive on loot or gems unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by twister

Most people don't have maxed out collectors. I can't find the post with the math but since they don't produce while upgrading and only increase production what... 300 an hour per level, it takes like 35 days to make up just the upgrade time. I'm working on mine now because it's all I have left and extra hit points to slow down attackers. 40k was used in the examples, but up top - 150k is a more realistic figure per attack and collectors don't cut it anyhow. They need to make enough for your first attack of the day, then you have to survive on loot or gems unfortunately.

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Completely agree with you man
i stopped at lv 5/6 on the collectors, because after that the ROI is just poor. Takes a lot of time just to break even the cost after that