Long War win streaks doesn't mean they are easy wars

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Are you insinuating that maxers are not war oriented? And that we only care about multiplayer? Lol. Those are the two falsest things one can ever think. I kicked my brother-in-law out of the clan for not attacking in order. Family christmas parties are just not the same anymore

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LOL, your clan is a lot more hardcore than mine....we rarely kick people, certainly not for not attacking in order...

Look at that, Metamucil ranked 3293. /Flex.

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Originally Posted by ReplicantRachel

Denton dear you are all over the place, engineer or not.

I'm trying to be positive here and point out that there are great clans out there with decent streaks and lineups https://cocp.it/tops/rhl

You don't like Bangkok? choose another one from the list then.

And stop it with the engineer term already, it is silly.
Let's refer to them as war oriented bases, how about that?

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Originally Posted by TankSinatra

Look at that, Metamucil ranked 3293. /Flex.

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Damn it Tank, even better than South West 45... a meagre 16,297.:(

I did notice that your Compound difficulty is only 72.5, while ours is nearly 100...

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I have no idea what that means, but we have more compound than you... FACT!:cool:

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Every troop and spell is important. Ya know why? Because ya never know when a buff comes along. With my 3rd account, I went to th9 and just did my goho/ giant healer troops. This was over a year ago. Never upgraded valks, they were useless at the time. We all saw how that went after the valk buff lol. So, they're all important. Archers n gobs important for farming. When they get bigger, they start sponging those mortars that you engineers like to not upgrade. Pekkas, np more double tesla damage. EVERY troop and spell matters. When we talk about quakes, everybody keeps talking about using them on the walls. It's not just that. A th8 must have quake if he wants to be an effective dragon attacker. He must have his own quake, level 5 lightning so he can kill a level 6 ad with two of them an a quake. That leaves him with a rage spell to use, and a haste in the cc for his loons. Thats the most prolific way to use drags at th8. Now if you want to kick th8 to the curb, well that's a shame because the game should be fun for everyone. As far as this bangkok or whatever clan, I'll look them up and draw my own conclusion. I don't doubt that theyre heavy th11 and th10, good for them. My clan is not that heavy (yet), but that still doesn't mean that pound for pound they're drawing harder wars. If they're engineered, which by the sounds of it they are, they're not drawing the top potential of th11's and th10's 'on the whole'. We are maxers, so as per our current level, we draw tough wars. And I wouldn't have it any other way. I hate when they have a huge advantage, and I also hate when we have one. But the difference is, we didn't intentionally try to create one, engineers do. And don't say by maxing we are trying to create one. We max to hold off 3 stars, just like I expect and WANT our opponents to. We just want to get paired with an equal clan that we just happen to run into at the same upgraded lives that we do. There is an opponent for everyone, especially now that people are merging and we're all traveling up to th11. I don't want easy wars for us or them, I think that's as fair as it gets.

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They are 100% drawing full th11s. Just take s look at their clan. Lots of max th11s/10. Now I know u will say "OMG they have 10.5"... but take a closer look... they have max th11 defenses and offense which negate ANY th.5 advantage so thode bases probably draw full th11s. On top of it their bottom is th9+ so they are not going to get weaker opponents and I severely doubt you get tougher wars than them. Engineers or not, th11/10 heavy war clans always get harder wars. Period

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Originally Posted by SupremeCleave

They are 100% drawing full th11s. Just take s look at their clan. Lots of max th11s/10. Now I know u will say "OMG they have 10.5"... but take a closer look... they have max th11 defenses and offense which negate ANY th.5 advantage so thode bases probably draw full th11s. On top of it their bottom is th9+ so they are not going to get weaker opponents and I severely doubt you get tougher wars than them. Engineers or not, th11/10 heavy war clans always get harder wars. Period

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I agreed, it's very likely that they draw quite tought oppont, you can see it from aoPoint ( the stat line above Compound Difficulty ). Bangkok has aoPoint of 3028 which roughtly means thier opponent mostly consist of maxed or near maxed th11-10s and may be none or very few th9s and below ( anything above 3000 aoPoint means the opponents has mostly maxed or near maxed th11-10s in their line up). However, aoPoint doesn't represent how good of their opponents, you have to look at the Compound Difficulty to see the whole picture.

Whats the clan tag? Im not buying all this snake oil, I gotta see with my own two eyes the subject at hand.

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Originally Posted by ryryshouse

Yup, still got to show up, make the attacks, fill the cc, etc. it is a grind for sure.. If I was in a preschool punching toddlers all day, eventually my arm would start getting tired. So I would have to go to the gym ( requires effort ) and stuff like that. pretty soon I have worked my way up to punching 2nd and 3rd graders, now I am back in the gym!! phew!! you see how this snowballs into beating down middle-schoolers with slightly ripped biceps and chisled abs, no longer that soft, pasty, supple skin I had when I started. I am now buying chicken and fish, eating a diet like Dwayne "THE ROCK" Johnson and running upwards of half a mile per day. Probably benching nearly 75% of the weight, squatting like 150 LB. ( 4 stones ). Dedication is maxed out here. The iPAD screen is wore out.

What this list needs a # of required dip attacks per war. If it is over 50% ( some number i thought looked good ) you suck and get booted or downgraded or whatever you consider it.

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Yes, the streaks can be considered impressive but when you say they have to face equal opposition every so often you dont factor that non-engineered clans also face equivalent opposition more often

Those are the wars where everyone has to be at their best and it takes tremendous organisation to pull out the win

If a few people have an off day, you lose and the streak ends

My clan faces these every 4 or 5 wars. Can you argue that your average heavily engineered clan faces them with a similar frequency, in which case respect given where its due.

However looking at UPH's war log when it was open, Id argue that their ratio was closer to 1 in 20.

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Originally Posted by daddylindo

Whats the clan tag? Im not buying all this snake oil, I gotta see with my own two eyes the subject at hand.

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bangkok B @war is the clan.

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Originally Posted by ratpack2000

Yes, the streaks can be considered impressive but when you say they have to face equal opposition every so often you dont factor that non-engineered clans also face equivalent opposition more often

Those are the wars where everyone has to be at their best and it takes tremendous organisation to pull out the win

If a few people have an off day, you lose and the streak ends

My clan faces these every 4 or 5 wars. Can you argue that your average heavily engineered clan faces them with a similar frequency, in which case respect given where its due.

However looking at UPH's war log when it was open, Id argue that their ratio was closer to 1 in 20.

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can you guys read? we are not talking about UPH or 6M we are talking about the link in the OP which is the RHL which ONLY shows clans that war at th9+ and their streaks. meaning we are seeing clans with heavy weight accounts with very good streaks.

Just because the OP is from 6M doesnt mean that they only talk about them lol...