Supercell PLEASE find a solution to roster engineering

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

Sooo...you have no complaints since you had manipulative bases as well?

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I'd be fine with the matchmaking system getting updated to account for TH lvl. The cumulative clan weight is what is being matched. When clans intentionally load 10 defenseless in a 50 vs 50 war it skews the match up to give the other clan a huge upper hand up top.

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Originally Posted by LittleMoon

THey earned it though. They studied the game and came up with a good strategy ( I dont think its thats great honestly ) to win. So they earned it by not blindly playing the game. What needs to happen is a different way to match clans like having leagues the way we have crystal, master titans but for war.

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That's laughable. They didn't STUDY the game. At some point, somebody figured it out and then over a period of time everyone else jumped on the bandwagon.

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

Sooo...you have no complaints since you had manipulative bases as well?

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Preach it my man! Preach it!

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Originally Posted by Krsatjhook

I can tell you that both roster engineering AND base engineering have impacted thee win/loss record of my clan tremendously over the last 3-4 months. We went from winning at a 4:1 ratio to being just about 50/50 win loss. And it because of roster and base engineering. It is not a 1 time thing. IN FACT, I have had to 1. Change war start time (used to play at night pst, now in the day) 2. Take only 1 of our 2 maxed th11's to war at a time 3. Constantly reassure my clan to stay focused on the game and not give up. All because of this issue. And guess what? We STILL see roster engineering AND base engineering. When you face a clan with maxed troops at the 17 spot in a 20 player war whose mirror is a th 7? You tell me there's nothing wrong with the system.

When your maxed th9 sitting at the 3 spot in a 20 man war gets 3*d by the opponent 18? You tell me there's nothing wrong with the system. There is absolutely no rational way to defend any of this stuff. And everybody knows it. The problem is that every day that passes and another clan gets sick of it one of two things happens. 1. They give in and accept the if you can't beat them join them group, or 2. They quit altogether.

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You must be really unlucky then. Ive been warring since the wars came out in my main and now I war back to back in 2 accounts on two different clans and I still havent seen an engineered clan. We see people with low accounts on the bottom but it doesnt look like they are trying to manipulate the match up. What sort of line up do you use because its so hard to believe you get matched vs them so much.

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Originally Posted by Krsatjhook

Preach it my man! Preach it!

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SMH... none of our minimax bases are even remotely near the top... any affect they have in our clan wars is still negligible. The issue is when one clan dominates the top positions... not when one clan has a 3 bases out of 50 in the mid-tier that are at an advantage.

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Originally Posted by Krsatjhook

The problem is that every day that passes and another clan gets sick of it one of two things happens. 1. They give in and accept the if you can't beat them join them group, or 2. They quit altogether.

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Bingo! As nerf stated earlier, this is the future of clan wars, unless changes are made by Supercell.

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Originally Posted by xXXCHRISXXx

Bingo! As nerf stated earlier, this is the future of clan wars, unless changes are made by Supercell.

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Maybe it isnt as bad as the forum wants people to believe it is and thats why nothing has happened yet. SC has all the numbers at their side. It would be nIce if they said anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Krsatjhook

I can tell you that both roster engineering AND base engineering have impacted thee win/loss record of my clan tremendously over the last 3-4 months. We went from winning at a 4:1 ratio to being just about 50/50 win loss. And it because of roster and base engineering. It is not a 1 time thing. IN FACT, I have had to 1. Change war start time (used to play at night pst, now in the day) 2. Take only 1 of our 2 maxed th11's to war at a time 3. Constantly reassure my clan to stay focused on the game and not give up. All because of this issue. And guess what? We STILL see roster engineering AND base engineering. When you face a clan with maxed troops at the 17 spot in a 20 player war whose mirror is a th 7? You tell me there's nothing wrong with the system.

When your maxed th9 sitting at the 3 spot in a 20 man war gets 3*d by the opponent 18? You tell me there's nothing wrong with the system. There is absolutely no rational way to defend any of this stuff. And everybody knows it. The problem is that every day that passes and another clan gets sick of it one of two things happens. 1. They give in and accept the if you can't beat them join them group, or 2. They quit altogether.

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Dude your preaching to the choir, i hate engineering as much as you. But your example and op's example are completely different in terms of extremes. the solution ISNT restricting lower level town halls. Thats ridiculous

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Originally Posted by LittleMoon

Maybe it isnt as bad as the forum wants people to believe it is and thats why nothing has happened yet. SC has all the numbers at their side. It would be nIce if they said anything about it.

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See our current war 50 vs 50 matchup on the previous page

When we need one or two more accounts in a war, I add the lowest TH's in my clan. Our two are a TH4 & TH5, not defenseless TH3's though. They aren't expected to attack since they were opted out.
Why would I throw in higher TH's in this situation? Losing 2 or 4 attacks higher up is too costly. My only alternative would be to sit out 3 people who wanted to war, & search with a smaller lineup.
Not all little TH's at the bottom are attempts at engineering.