The downfall of Clash of Clans

Ok.. so I've been playing this game for a cpl yrs. I have built a very good clan over this time ( war record 268wins 38 losses 2 draws- #8G2YRYJY if anyone doubts me)We just got our 38th loss yesterday. I don't mind losing to a good clan that just out plays us.. but that isn't the case. The gross manipulation of matchmaking that is going on NEEDS to be addressed. It gets worse daily. Let me give u an example.. the war before last our opponents had 1 th11, 5 th 10s, 4 th 9 , 5 th8. We had 1 th 11, 1 th 10, 4 th9, 6 th8, 1 th7, 2 th6. (We managed to win this simply because we at least had the same number of th11s) the war we just lost (our last war) our opponents had 2 th 11, 2 th 10 , 4 th9, 5 th8, 1 th7, 1 th6 vs our 1th11, 2th10, 4 th9, 4th8, 2th6. With matchups like these..all of the enemies attacks on all bases are from +1 th with the exception of our th11s. So essentially my clan is suffering for NOT rushing our bases. We have been matched several times now against clans with th9&th10s that have only ONE CANNON , they max one attack, heroes, camps, spell factory, and traps. These bases can take out a max th9 (mass bowlers) but defensive score is lower than a th7. Supercell needs to fix matchmaking. Quite honestly, they need to start factoring in th level to combat these ridiculous manipulation of matchmaking. If they made it so opponents had same number of each th level on everything over th8..(and still within same point spread they currently use) it would be an easy fix. Because as it is now, it doesn't pay to play the game right. I'm ready to quit or make 3 of these accts myself because I'm so tired of trying to overcome a ridiculous disadvantage every war. I love my clan and I did love wars.. but this is ruining the game.

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Originally Posted by babyx

Ok.. so I've been playing this game for a cpl yrs. I have built a very good clan over this time ( war record 268wins 38 losses 2 draws- #8G2YRYJY if anyone doubts me)We just got our 38th loss yesterday. I don't mind losing to a good clan that just out plays us.. but that isn't the case. The gross manipulation of matchmaking that is going on NEEDS to be addressed. It gets worse daily. Let me give u an example.. the war before last our opponents had 1 th11, 5 th 10s, 4 th 9 , 5 th8. We had 1 th 11, 1 th 10, 4 th9, 6 th8, 1 th7, 2 th6. (We managed to win this simply because we at least had the same number of th11s) the war we just lost (our last war) our opponents had 2 th 11, 2 th 10 , 4 th9, 5 th8, 1 th7, 1 th6 vs our 1th11, 2th10, 4 th9, 4th8, 2th6. With matchups like these..all of the enemies attacks on all bases are from +1 th with the exception of our th11s. So essentially my clan is suffering for NOT rushing our bases. We have been matched several times now against clans with th9&th10s that have only ONE CANNON , they max one attack, heroes, camps, spell factory, and traps. These bases can take out a max th9 (mass bowlers) but defensive score is lower than a th7. Supercell needs to fix matchmaking. Quite honestly, they need to start factoring in th level to combat these ridiculous manipulation of matchmaking. If they made it so opponents had same number of each th level on everything over th8..(and still within same point spread they currently use) it would be an easy fix. Because as it is now, it doesn't pay to play the game right. I'm ready to quit or make 3 of these accts myself because I'm so tired of trying to overcome a ridiculous disadvantage every war. I love my clan and I did love wars.. but this is ruining the game.

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Supercell has done nothing about this for some time. It makes a mockery of the idea that defenses are important. It is as skewed as the prior situation in which parking town halls outside walls made sense. It seems likely that they get a lot of gemming for these engineered bases, so its a cash cow. Cant think of any other reason why this is normal

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Originally Posted by Arcturus8789

Supercell has done nothing about this for some time. It makes a mockery of the idea that defenses are important. It is as skewed as the prior situation in which parking town halls outside walls made sense. It seems likely that they get a lot of gemming for these engineered bases, so its a cash cow. Cant think of any other reason why this is normal

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Yes, I know it's been going on for a while, but it has become the norm now as opposed to occasional. And it's possible those bases bring in a lot of cash for SC, but it is possible to make these bases without gemming. I would hope that the fact that these players are ruining the game would outweigh the income gained from the ones that do gem to make these abominations. It's very short-sighted of SC otherwise.

I hate the engineered bases, they're jokes to me. haven't seen one in a bit though. I'm seeing more x.5/75 bases now - 9s with no xbows and 10s with no infernos. It was worse when wall weight was higher, not so much anymore.

you have to remember:
SC is a business first, and a game creator second - that's the problem. Happened to Ubisoft a while ago. It happened to bungie when they linked with activision... and now they're doing the same to blizzard.
It's the nature of the industries.:(

I do understand they are a business, which is why I say its shortsighted of them NOT to address this. I'm quite certain that even though some of these "jokes" do buy gems..the majority of the player base with real bases that do buy gems (we all know some ppl do and some ppl dont) will spend more over the years than these engineered ♥♥ bases. Wall weight is irrelevant, I'm talking about bases that have no walls.they have only the cannon that you need to make to get through the tutorial. Everything else is offense. They level troops for ONE atk (like mass bowlers) and their heroes. I would look at these bases as a "joke" also.. except that when u end up matched against multiple th11 and th10.. vs your one or two because of this it really takes the fun out of war. I don't know how you have managed to not see any of these bases in a while... when it seems to have become the norm in our wars.. what time do you typically declare war?

I just started an alternate account today that is going to have exactly one cannon (and maybe the bomb tower), no walls, and max dragons at TH8. It's going to help my clan win wars.....I don't see why this is a problem :)

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Originally Posted by dayungjeeze

I just started an alternate account today that is going to have exactly one cannon (and maybe the bomb tower), no walls, and max dragons at TH8. It's going to help my clan win wars.....I don't see why this is a problem :)

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Exactly this is the problem OP is mentioning that. You will get paired with lower TH who would be able to 3* but their higher TH will struggle against your higher matchups and eventually lose the war.

Completely understand this is a strategy game and you can have different strategy to play the game you want but doing what you are doing is unfair advantage. Again you could say that OP or others could be doing and taking the advantage but some dont play like that. I agree with OP and hope Supercell does something about it. I dont mind .5 or .75 but this eng bases must stop.

join them if u can't beat them. working on it me too created a minimum defenceless th9..(can clear all th8)..but as I go in th10..our clan started matching with super level of engineer clans... we lost out 4out of 5wars in a row...previous record was only 1 loss with at least 5 wins.. so. don't think engineer bases always wins.. see OP is too saying he won 2nd last war. ; ) enjoy wars.. don't think deeply. (if u starts losing after many wins)...sorry for my broken English..

I hate engineered clans too, they ruin the game as the war become boring. Who wants to see a defensless TH10 smash a TH9. The wars I most remember and enjoyed were the competitive ones that come down to a clutch attack right at the 11th hour. I don't buy the 'if you can't beat them join them' argument either, if I'm forced to play the game in a way that makes the game boring I'll just stop playing. My clan has started trying to avoid engineered clans by limiting the range of TH's in war. We only include max TH8 to TH11, no lower TH's - which has been working. I hate excluding people but if it means wars are actually exciting and the outcome isn't predetermined then it's worth it.

Browse the war subforum for a ton of discussion about this. You're roster is a problem, a huge th spread is nearly impossible to match so you draw a lot of bad matches, engineered or not. Tighten up that spread and you'll see better matches.

I know no one wants to change their war composition, bench friends just to have better matches, but its more productive than demanding the impossible, which is always fair matches for rare types of clans.