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When you farmed your more expensive walls you were attacking a fewer percentage of players with max walls, thus making your loot grab easier. Now that more can get max walls cheaper/sooner there will be more strengthened defenses in the pot. I don't see you complaining about how few had L11 walls when you attacked.
Those wall are just for display purpose only. Out of 250 walls, walllbreakers only break 3. Heroes break 1.
....and the wallbreaker of course will run to the most maxed wall pieces! :p:facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by qingfantasy
Walls make a big difference between 2 stars and 3 stars for ground attacks at higher town hall levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by qingfantasy
I dont think this update will take place today or tomorrow, dont forget there are still 3 activities unrelease by supercell as they claim will add into the new version. but anyway, still looking forward to have the new update, gems are ready to spend just bring it on as soon as possible !
I did tbh. 500 million is a drop in the bucket for reasonable farmers (much less hardcore OP GOD farmers who laugh at the mere thought of having to farm 500 million)... if GG/EE wasn't capped at 2bn, my guess is i would be approaching the 10bn mark on my main th. and i don't even raid that much anymore on the main account. kinda hard when you're stuck in legends clouds. imagine if i wasn't wasting my time up there... but then again why would i raid other people resources if i don't need them? only thing i can use are trophies (and possibly ea/it destruction achievements).Quote:
Originally Posted by 2222
I've never targeted gold/elixir to put into walls, they are just a natural byproduct of surplus resources that are acquired because i'm a relatively active attacker. I mean i wouldn't even say i'm an OP god farmer, just reasonable and I still have a full set of max walls. I feel sorry for people who focused on putting resources into walls at the expense of defense/lab upgrades tho. why anyone would do that is beyond comprehension.
(N.B.: I'm sure there are many threads about that topic already, so if these have been suggested already, please a mod feel free to delete this post)
Ok, so we have a problem here:
On one hand, with constant additions of new levels, it can become a bit overwhelming for new players, to see the big task ahead of them, if one wants to max everything out.
On the other hand, we have many players who have already spent a phenomenal amount of time and/or money (to get those several hundred millions that are about to be removed for nothing), and who feel completely cheated by Supercell.
I won't lie, I belong to that category, and am really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ about that decision (that feels like a complete lack of respect from SC to its most dedicated players who have put so much efforts into getting those several hundred millions), which just removed all the flavour the game still had for me. And I'm not the only one, as I know many hardcore and truly dedicated players who were proud of having grinded those walls, and just feel completely cheated by the fact that all those efforts and/or money will now have been for nothing.
To me this choice is wrong, for two main reasons: 1) it penalizes the most dedicated players, and any marketer will tell you: it is truly bad business to penalize your lasting, dedicated customers…; 2) it would now confront all players with the question: "Wow, should I really bother spending time and/or money in that game if I'm not even guaranteed that all those things I achieve won't just be suddenly removed later on, and I'll just have done it all for nothing…?"
So anyway, to solve this problem I see two main possibilities:
1) When a cost or time reduction is applied to a troop/building, the difference gets refunded to the players who had already achieved that upgrade. For ex, if a troop upgrade used to cost 8 million elixir and take 12 days, and it will now cost 7 million and take 10 days, all players who had already achieved that upgrade will be granted 1 million elixir (no storage limit) and a 2 days lab time reduction to be used later on (or the equivalent in gems, if that's easier to implement) . Same thing for buildings, heroes or walls changes.
That would allow to not scare new players, while being fair for old players, as in the end everyone will have to have paid the same price to reach the same results.
2) If SC doesn't want to implement the option above, but still wants to reduce the costs of level 10 and 11 walls, then something costing that difference in price should be added to those walls. For example if lvl 10 walls were now to cost 2M instead of 3M, then an option costing 1M should be added to lvl 10 walls. It could be a defensive buff, or even as little as just a purely visual effect (like the motion that lvl 10 and 11 walls currently have (so that basic lvl 10 walls at 2M wouldn't have that motion anymore, but for 1M more you would get that motion on your lvl 10 wall)).
I really like that option, as it would allow new people to have lvl 10 and 11 walls for cheaper; while giving a little extra (even if only just visual) to existing, dedicated players who had spent a lot of time and/or money to get those walls, so that they don't feel cheated that in the end those several hundred millions were all for nothing…
Anyway, just the way I see it, but for me if SC downgrades the walls in such a dramatic way (we're talking about hundreds of millions suddenly disappearing here), without caring about all those who had already paid the full price to get those walls, SC would be making a huge mistake, and would not just lose the trust, but just lose outright, many of its most dedicated players who will feel really cheated.
Cheers.
There is one massive thread on the front page already discussing this.
Also, there is no "wall reduction cost problem." Supercell cares about the long term stability and success of the game, which necessitates reductions of time and cost to old items as new ones get introduced. It's how virtually all games with lifetimes as long as this one survive and persist.
edit: and there is little point in discussing this any further than that. A reduction in wall/hero upgrade cost/time is GOOD for the game overall and it's long term health. That's the long and short of it, nothing else really matters from supercells perspective. Can we stop talking about this now!
Another thread about the same topic............ SC already has your money and your time, really, making you mad will just make you quit (you weren't spending anymore money anyway maxed out) and now they have thousands of new people
Don't you think on a business side of things, SC is a genius doing this? Yes your going to make the old players mad, but really, you got all the money out of them, now you have THOUSANDS of new ppl who will gem and make them money
Its rather brilliant...... its unfortunate for all the people that already maxed their walls and hero's but your a small percentage of the game, to get more money and more players, SC has to reduce the time spent, and cost , makes them more money
and I am 100 % sure, SC cares more about money and their stock than losing 1000 people, for every 1 or 2 people quitting this game, 3-4 more people are joining
That's just the way she goes
But coc is not useful like a computer. Coc is only for fun. Diminishing my accomplishments by discounting walls and heroes diminishes my fun. Also, I think supercell will continue to discount things so that noobs can think that they can reach the end game and get new blood into the game, so I expect that my fun will continually be diminished. Therefore, I no longer have any reason to play. This is a very sad day for me because I did enjoy this game very much before. There may be no other way to keep this game going because maxed out bases take so long that a new player may think why bother, but for someone like me who puts such a high value on breaking out from the pack because it gives me pride, this is the end :(Quote:
Originally Posted by RAppel