[One & Only] Update Discounts - Walls

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Originally Posted by SingleMalt69

Srsly? The point of a discussion forum is to discuss, unless this is another SC trick. We are discussing. We are also providing opinions and potential solutions, that hopefully with make it to SC's ears, maybe by way of our moderators.

We all know that SC has a laughable track record of communicating to the community, but that won't stop the community from trying to communicate to SC. You as a moderator, can help make sure those messages flow in both directions.

Set aside the rationalizations and minimizations, and you can see that there is an emotional reaction to what is perceived as an insult to SC's most dedicated customers. If I was running this business, I would want to hear about it. Last December wasn't necessarily an insult, but it destroyed the casual player base. Feedback from the community helped mitigate the effect of that destruction, if only a little bit. Help us minimize the impact of this insult, please.

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I will tell you what is a rational decision here.

Raid twice a day, snipe th only. Rush your base to th 11. End.

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Originally Posted by SingleMalt69

Virtually all of you are missing the point here. This change by SC is driving an emotional response from its dedicated player base. May I remind you that last December, much the same thing happened. All of you who are minimizing these very real emotions with "get over it", real world analogies, and other rationalizations are coming across as insensitive clods.

There is real anger and real frustration here. The lack of response from SC, while typical and expected, just exacerbates the situation. Last December, there was a mass exodus of players...that can't be denied. SC is setting themselves up for the same situation this December. I'm not a game developer, but I am a business person, and the last thing I would ever consider doing is taking a conscious decision that annoyed and irritated my most dedicated customers. The insanity of doing so is just something I can not even begin to wrap my head around. The fact that is has been done for two years in a row just makes it that much more incomprehensible.

Stop the real world analogies.
Stop minimizing peoples' emotional responses.

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Rush to th 11, end.

Just walk away..I am doing it on Jan. 1st... I had planned on doing before the wall deduction, but that made my 3.5 year addiction an easier choice. It will be tough to quit cold turkey.. but it is the only way. My respect to all those on the wall grinding journey. It was tough at times but worth it...in a year, if the game is still around everyone will have maxed out walls (prolly only be 2 million by then) so the whinner will win. But whatever...

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Originally Posted by ChampionTheIV

You
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have to participate! And 30k gems would still be highway robbery. If you have maxed out lvl 11 walls, the resources if bought with gems would be around 183k gems.

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EXACTLY!!! I don't have to participate, but I did, we also didn't have to max our walls, but we did! The point is still that this sense of entitlement for our own choices, and the complete disregard for the long term health of the game is completely mind-blowing.

Enticing new players to play to the higher levels is a GOOD thing! Reducing the dreaded costs of grinding the walls and heros is a way to encourage players to play to a higher level, thus extending the life of the game and increasing the level of competition. People who can't see that are being short sighted and missing the big picture.

Mmmhmm and when did anyone say that was a bad thing???

And may i remind you that the majority of the paying players are the ones with max walls. Also the ones that are upset.

So alienate the current game supporters in the hopes of getting more supporters somewhere down the road?

Sounds like a risky move to me!

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Originally Posted by SumoSloth

EXACTLY!!! I don't have to participate, but I did, we also didn't have to max our walls, but we did! The point is still that this sense of entitlement for our own choices, and the complete disregard for the long term health of the game is completely mind-blowing.

Enticing new players to play to the higher levels is a GOOD thing! Reducing the dreaded costs of grinding the walls and heros is a way to encourage players to play to a higher level, thus extending the life of the game and increasing the level of competition. People who can't see that are being short sighted and missing the big picture.

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I agree that SC may have had no other choice to keep the game going. However, not liking it and not participating any more does not make me short sighted. It makes me rational because my cost-benefit analysis for playing the game has been fundamentally altered. Also, I have every right to speak up when SC does this without even saying a peep to the players who just lost their competitive advantage that they worked so hard for. The manner in which SC did this is textbook bad.

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Originally Posted by SumoSloth

EXACTLY!!! I don't have to participate, but I did, we also didn't have to max our walls, but we did! The point is still that this sense of entitlement for our own choices, and the complete disregard for the long term health of the game is completely mind-blowing.

Enticing new players to play to the higher levels is a GOOD thing! Reducing the dreaded costs of grinding the walls and heros is a way to encourage players to play to a higher level, thus extending the life of the game and increasing the level of competition. People who can't see that are being short sighted and missing the big picture.

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Not a smart move to entice future players at the expense of those who HAVE been most loyal. Personally... I hope the game does fail. Over the past year they have taken away plenty, time for them 2lose as well.

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Originally Posted by SumoSloth

EXACTLY!!! I don't have to participate, but I did, we also didn't have to max our walls, but we did! The point is still that this sense of entitlement for our own choices, and the complete disregard for the long term health of the game is completely mind-blowing.

Enticing new players to play to the higher levels is a GOOD thing! Reducing the dreaded costs of grinding the walls and heros is a way to encourage players to play to a higher level, thus extending the life of the game and increasing the level of competition. People who can't see that are being short sighted and missing the big picture.

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Exactly the opposite. Now everyone knows the price of virtually everything could drop. So instead of grinding my way to lv 10 walls( I have 7 pieces of Lv 10 wall before the update), why don't I just sit chill and wait for the discount?

As you can see if there wasn't a deduction of 1 million I would probably be raiding some base right now, but instead I am just wasting y time on this forum replying to your post. How is it going to get people spend $? I wouldn't spend a cent in 2017, and I assume all my coleaders are doing the same. I am wondering why anyone would even calculate the gem value of the walls since now I am expecting another price reduction of walls within half a year.

Yes there will be new players, but they won't need to spend a cent until about th 9, which is half a year later. The only guys that could be lured to spend $ are those who rushed and now trying to max, but how long will they last?

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Originally Posted by darkdarkdark

28,57% /600million / 180000 gems / €1285
It's just too much, you guys really went too far this time like speeding with you car against a (lvl12) wall.

Its going to cost you in a long run to upset your most loyal players / gemmers /spenders / grinders.

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I am predicting another prince drop within half a year.

Now or they will release new levels for AQ n BK to Lv 50, and Warden to probably 30. My builders will be busy but I will rush to get all the extra collectors out and only work on those.

Those who are on payroll probably will have a buyer beware bumper stick now.

Guys you are paying to have your walls higher and have a temporary advantage that's the whole point of getting things once they are out. If your going to complain every time something gets discounted then wait a year and get it when the cost goes down. It's the same logic as a video for 60 then a GOTY edition a year later for 20. Your paying to have a head start.