[One & Only] Update Discounts - Walls

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Originally Posted by SumoSloth

Supply and demand is true to an extent, however what you don't understand is that the demand lessens significantly as you get closer to th10 and 11, the idea is to keep more people playing to higher levels.Tthus lowering the prices of the daunting task for many new players is exactly that, increasing the demand for the product. The number of people who quit when they get to th9 and 10 is staggering in part because of the grind of walls and heros.

If too many people look at the end game as unreachable, they never even try to get there, which means less of a customer base and the death of the game, which is why ALL games constantly reduce prices or make things that were previously unavailable to everyone, available. Those who do not do this, do not last long in the market, sad to say.

To use your race analogy (which is ridiculous by the way), It is more like this.... If two people were going to race (let's make it a marathon - 26 miles) and one person had a 1-1/2 hour head start, would you even bother to race? Not unless you knew you only had to run the last 15 miles and their was a chance of you catching the first person.

The idea is they want to attract new players and keep current players playing longer, can't do this if they're scared off before they begin.

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Nice analysis but incorrect.

The reason high level guys are playing is to stay on top. If I knew I will be 3 starred or attacked to such an extent that I get humiliated by other guys coming after me will I even bother to play? I won't even bother try to get there anymore.

The easier it gets to reach high level, the harder it becomes to retain old players. On the other hand, the cost of retaining higher players are way cheaper than obtaining new low level players.

I demand recompense for the time I voluntarily spent playing a free game!

RECOMPENSE, do you hear me?!?!

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Originally Posted by MossackFonseca

They don't have "maxed" walls though...



Yes, it's fair. And, here's a news flash: this is going to happen again. And again. And again. All popular, long-lived games do stuff like this. If it bothers you then go play something else, preferably an unpopular game that never gets updates...that way, you'll never have to worry about wasting resources on something that gets a price reduction later on.

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Maxed TH10 loses out on 550 million resources -- which could cover most of the costs that exist to max out TH11.

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Originally Posted by Leethal82

I maxed out all my lvl 10 walls at TH9 and all but 8 of the of the new ones from th10 are lvl 10. I am a little ♥♥♥♥♥♥ about it, but it is what it is. I enjoyed the grind and happy my clanmates who are tackling it right now will have an easier time. That being said, I am going to go ahead and do lvl 11 walls now that they are 3 million a piece.

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That's almost exactly where I am. I had all of the new ones up to lava and 19 to magma. Also had 12 hero levels finished that are now discounted. ♥♥♥♥♥♥ isn't the right word, but I felt the wall/hero grind advantage that I had given myself had been diminished. Not a real big deal to me though.

Somebody in my clan said something like, "I'm so happy I didn't do lavas yet." Made me realize 2 things: 1) I am still happy that I am on the magma grind not the lava grind and 2) if it helps my clan mates, it's a net positive for me.

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Originally Posted by Jose23

Nice analysis but incorrect.

The reason high level guys are playing is to stay on top. If I knew I will be 3 starred or attacked to such an extent that I get humiliated by other guys coming after me will I even bother to play? I won't even bother try to get there anymore.

The easier it gets to reach high level, the harder it becomes to retain old players. On the other hand, the cost of retaining higher players are way cheaper than obtaining new low level players.

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Higher level players or players who have played for a long time are more likely to stay because of the time already invested in the game, they may become disgruntled but they will stay until their is no more competition. Unfortunately the number of "high-Level players" is dwarfed quite signicantly by the number "low-level" players which is what SC is trying to correct, enticing more players to achieve higher levels extends the life of the game. Keeping a handful of old players happy, unfortunately does not. It's a short term loss for a long-term gain.

xD have you heard of Hearthstone? guess you haven't. it refunds upgrade costs for every card it nerfs. and yes it is a popular game btw. and 250 million /500 million gold is not farmed in a few days.it takes months. lol why should i go play another game when i am interested enough in the game i play to even visit its forum?

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Originally Posted by sinfiery

Maxed TH10 loses out on 550 million resources -- which could cover most of the costs that exist to max out TH11.

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As a TH11 with nearly maxed walls (~20 left) I am completely fine with the price reduction. As many people have pointed out, price/time reduction happens in nearly every game that has a long lifespan. It allows newer players to come in and progress quicker to the upper tiers. Plus I had fun getting my walls. The point of the game is to enjoy playing it and I enjoyed the farming.

I bought a pc last week and now it is way cheaper already. I want a refund!

Seeing so many of these posts leaves me scratching my head... I assume being a high to maxed lvl 11, they've been around long enough to know everytime a new lvl is added the former maxed lvl gets a discount. Troops, heroes, building etc... It's part of the game and has always been part of it. You reaped the benefits of it when you were lower, but now you're complaining that you get hit with it as well? Sorry but you don't deserve special treatment. Everyone who's had maxed this or that has gone through it. Welcome to the club.

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Originally Posted by SumoSloth

Higher level players or players who have played for a long time are more likely to stay because of the time already invested in the game, they may become disgruntled but they will stay until their is no more competition. Unfortunately the number of "high-Level players" is dwarfed quite signicantly by the number "low-level" players which is what SC is trying to correct, enticing more players to achieve higher levels extends the life of the game. Keeping a handful of old players happy, unfortunately does not. It's a short term loss for a long-term gain.

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Thank you for spending time reading and replying but I am arguing exactly the opposite.

One typical example is the th snipe update happened in Dec. 2015. Yes the high level players are let's say heavily invested in the game but there is no reason for them to stay if they are not confortable since now they have to compete with the new comers who obviously are catching up. Remember the purpose of playing the game is to have FUN and in this game fun means stay on top. Otherwise why do we have a league badge and the trophy system?

The life of the game is defined by how much $ SC can make other than how many low level guys can jump to high level. The purpose is to make those low level guys spend $ during the progress of becoming a high level player. Now that I know that discount will come sooner or later will I even bother to spend $? I will just wait for the update. Such an anticipated event reduces the possibility income and hence is a bad move.

Hence my my conclusion is exactly the opposite, it is a short term gain but long term loss.