Clan wars: Something to fight for

Clan XP & Perks are the reward for taking part to a war. The winner gains a little more XP, but anyway both winner and loser gain XP. In other words Clan XP can’t ever be lost, soon or later every clan will reach the tenth perk. If you continue to fight your clan could reach also level 11, 12, 13, ... and straight on to the infinite (with no further perks)!


Where is the meaning of this? It misses something to fight for.


If the Clan who lost the war lost also XP points, the Level of a Clan would really be representative of its war ability and the related Perks would be that thing to fight for. That is to say that the Clan Level, or, similarly, the XP amount, becomes a ranking where clans of similar strength occupy close positions and if your Clan wants to climb the ladder it has to improve its war ability.

I get where you are coming from. Problem there is it assumes everyone does war for competition. This would negatively impact all those farming clans. Basically telling them they don't deserve to level up since they don't try to win wars.

Isn't there a problem with the match engine for such a setup. Right now you could easily get a war where the winner is determent from the beginning (unless they make a really big mistake)

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Originally Posted by Guscleatus

I get where you are coming from. Problem there is it assumes everyone does war for competition. This would negatively impact all those farming clans. Basically telling them they don't deserve to level up since they don't try to win wars.

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Honestly yes: first of all why should you partecipate to a war if you don't want to win, secondly the majority of the perks are war oriented, lastly if the clan XP will be really representative of the clan war ability it does not matter how frequently the clan partecipates to a war: every clan will have the level that it deserves.

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Originally Posted by Carambola

Honestly yes: first of all why should you partecipate to a war if you don't want to win, secondly the majority of the perks are war oriented, lastly if the clan XP will be really representative of the clan war ability it does not matter how frequently the clan partecipates to a war: every clan will have the level that it deserves.

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Agreed, I don't understand not trying to win wars. However there is a huge community base that doesn't approach it that way. I don't see SC negatively impacting that group for no reason. Game for fun, everyone has fun differently.

I think that a clan that does not partecipate to war for win it isn't interested in increasing its war loot bonus or its war loot storage...

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Game for fun, everyone has fun differently

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I agree, but where is the fun to be a clan of level 12, knowing that every clan, even the most shabby, soon or later will have the same perks you have?

If that happened not as many clans will have wars and if they do have wars they will have smaller numbers of players so if they lose
they won't lose as much xp

I like the idea that xp could go down as well as up. Perhaps it could also go down a little bit every season for clans that get themselves up to L10 and then stop going to war. I've often thought clan level should just be the number of wins out of the last 10 wars (not the same as win streak).

It's true that everyone enjoys the game their own way, but it is less fun for both clans when a war clan meets a farm clan in war. The war clan has no challenge and the farm clan has no chance.

The clan still has the combined experience of past wars, they can't go backwards. Why. should they be penalized for not winning.

They still committed resources and they still committed time. Their warring members can't leave and fight a war until cooldown expires. No different to a winning clan so why the different treatment ?

Taking clan xp of losers will destroy some clans. No one wants that.

There are plenty of successful and high level clans with poor win/loss ratios. People are attracted to them because the offer donation/request perks that help with pushing. They don't set out to win just to participate. I don't care for the approach but it's within the rules and they don't harm me, my clan or the game.

The idea that all clans will reaxh max perks fails to hold up in the real CoC world. Clans come and go. Some never last, others dissolve after a longer time.

This is why I titled this topic "Something to fight for".
Do you mean that no one wants to put himself into play? Do you mean that everyone wants the din-dins ready?
I'm just trying to suggest a way to improve the fun.

they should fix clan match ups before they do this

No support. In fact I'd argue that the way to get Clan XP should be expanded to multiplayer as well. We should get XP from raiding, even if on a smaller scale, at a minimum scaled to how fast you could get XP warring.

Considering the increasing no. of engineered clans, I would say that a war is won 60% by luck and 40%by skill.
Plus it would be a disadvantage to all the farming clans that doesn't want to win and helps the opposite clan win.

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Originally Posted by dd1cool

they should fix clan match ups before they do this

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Originally Posted by SUPERHEROUNLIMITED

Considering the increasing no. of engineered clans, I would say that a war is won 60% by luck and 40%by skill.

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As I argued in other topics about finding a solution to an unsatisfying matchmaking system due principally to engineered clans, if Clan XP can be both gain and lost, it could be used as unique parameter for choosing the right opponent during the war matchmaking.

To know more about these topics:
http://forum.supercell.com/showthrea...funny-again%21
http://forum.supercell.com/showthrea...ct-MATCHMAKING

I don't like this idea. first there is little or no profit(excluding gold) for winning wars which basically means alot of resources went down the drain when you lose and now you want to add insult to injury for denying xp as well. can't the loss of resources be enough?

Unpopular changes have made this game great: for example nobody greeted with joy the shield system update, or the no-more-townhall-out-of-the-walls update, but these two changes gave a shake to a stagnant situation.
If SC made only popular changes now day everyone would swimm in a sea of gems.