TH9 DE Problems.

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December 3rd, 2016
xQQx

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

Sorry, but in this forums you cannot call yourself maxed until you have every single building, wall piece, hero level and lab upgrade complete. Being a th9 with 1 purple wall is rushed. And you need to finish everything with 5 free builders before you're allowed to start your th upgrade.

Optimising and min/maxing is quite frowned upon here. Most people here giving advise are casual, they say my strategy very hardcore and niche. I'll make myself proud that I'm more hardcore than them

Be proud as a rusher.

I'm gonna post a thread on general soon with my super rushed TH8 going to TH9. I might get there 10 days before you <3
December 3rd, 2016
Aspex

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Originally Posted by Valthis

Thanks Sin. I'm going to correct Aspex and BLM one more time though : I am not a war player. I do not war, and when I do, it's very rare, and only because my clan has literally no other person to call on. I only care about farming troops.

When I went from TH8-TH9, every single piece of my base was completely maxed except for a few Lv7 walls, and 5 BK levels. That's it. Dragons, Valks, Golems, and Pekkas are war troops above everything else, and generally not used in mutliplayer unless pushing. And taking into consideration my ENTIRE lab was completely maxed off except for one more level on rage spell at the time, and DE warring troops (and again, they don't matter to me because I don't war) I didn't rush. I maxed all of my defenses and moved up. I literally only cared to max farming troops, and I even took the time to get levels on non-farming troops as well.

Alot of mis-information coming from Aspex and BLM. I consider it slander and libel of character. I always maxed my current TH before moving on to the next. Or at least all relevant pieces. It's how I play. Waiting when my entire base was maxed for a few troops I never use and 5 more BK levels would have slowed down my progress for months on end, putting me far behind where I am now.

And thank you sin.

Oh, and AD's/AT's were both Lv 5 through and Lv 8 all through before moving to TH9. And I ignored Tesla's because they were nerfed into the ground when I went up to TH9, and as for the bomb tower not being maxed, it wasn't even a thing when I made the switch, so irrelevant. I'll boost it when I get around to it.

*EDIT* : And I'm currently re-maxing farming troops, in 10 days and 4 1/2 hours I'm going to have Lv.6 Giants. 10 Days after that, Lv.6 Archers or Barbarians. Have yet to decide.

You cannot "correct" me as I said nothing that was incorrect. You claimed that everything was maxed apart from some level 7 walls and 4 levels on your BK. That statement was false. You repeat that falsehood when you say "When I went from TH8-TH9, every single piece of my base was completely maxed except for a few Lv7 walls, and 5 BK levels. That's it." Except that isn't it. Not every piece of your base except BK and walls were maxed. Not all your elixir troops, which you had specifically said were all maxed, were maxed.

I made no value judgement, just corrected your incorrect statements. For you to talk of slander is laughable, especially as it is you libelling me by accusing me of spreading misinformation. For someone spreading misinformation, look no further than the mirror. You are now adding exceptions to what you claimed you maxed, and some in a downright dishonest manner, i.e. teslas were not nerfed, they no longer have pekkas have a favourite target with extra damage and that change was made in the same update that introduced the bomb tower (that I hadn't even mentioned).

For you to say that you maxed is false, that was all that I said. As my statement was correct I stand by it.
December 3rd, 2016
AlphaToOmega

yes stay at higher league.

after some threads said abt raiding at gold 2 and being able grab abt 80k de on a active day...

so i manage to get 17 (6 from my clan, the rest from other friends clan) th9 to go gold 2 and do as what being recommended..

conclusion - theorically achievable and technically super hard... without any boost or ppl sharing account to constantly raiding as much as possible.

note we all are from international clan so 17 of them have a slightly different most active hours and i think we had a good coverage of different timing of a day.

1st: dead base can be found but it is most likely gold/elixir de is just avg about 1.6k (th9)
2nd: purely bararch alone you might not be able to reach core... you nid gibarach + spell at least on most base both th8 and th9.

3rd: most achieve up to ard 40k being active for the whole day for abt 10 to 14 hrs.

so that our small experiance.
a few of them have done before and say avg need abt 3 day to reach 100k de but usually is abt 4 days because it disrupt their daily task alot and you wouldnt want to do it edaily.

so good luck raiding de in gold 2.
December 3rd, 2016
Valthis

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Originally Posted by Aspex

You cannot "correct" me as I said nothing that was incorrect. You claimed that everything was maxed apart from some level 7 walls and 4 levels on your BK. That statement was false. You repeat that falsehood when you say "When I went from TH8-TH9, every single piece of my base was completely maxed except for a few Lv7 walls, and 5 BK levels. That's it." Except that isn't it. Not every piece of your base except BK and walls were maxed. Not all your elixir troops, which you had specifically said were all maxed, were maxed.

I made no value judgement, just corrected your incorrect statements. For you to talk of slander is laughable, especially as it is you libelling me by accusing me of spreading misinformation. For someone spreading misinformation, look no further than the mirror. You are now adding exceptions to what you claimed you maxed, and some in a downright dishonest manner, i.e. teslas were not nerfed, they no longer have pekkas have a favourite target with extra damage and that change was made in the same update that introduced the bomb tower (that I hadn't even mentioned).

For you to say that you maxed is false, that was all that I said. As my statement was correct I stand by it.

I don't rush. To say I do is an affront to my character and slander. It's a lie. I don't tolerate me or my base being made fun of Aspex. You are spreading misinformation by the facts I presented above. It's no less than a personal attack on me. Reported. And I'm not responding to you anymore.

I did correct you. Deal with it. You are factually wrong and personally attacking me. That's something I don't tolerate. Your also hijacking a thread against forum policy. You've been corrected for the final time.
December 3rd, 2016
whp4

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Originally Posted by BLM

calling it like i see it, sorry but your base is rushed. you don't think 5 lvls of bk is important to farmers ? justifyingyour rushing all you want, good luck, you will need out there .

No, not important at all if you are farming enough DE to keep him sleeping all the time!
December 3rd, 2016
xQQx

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Originally Posted by Valthis

I don't rush. To say I do is an affront to my character and slander. It's a lie. I don't tolerate me or my base being made fun of Aspex. You are spreading misinformation by the facts I presented above. It's no less than a personal attack on me. Reported. And I'm not responding to you anymore.

I did correct you. Deal with it. You are factually wrong and personally attacking me. That's something I don't tolerate. Your also hijacking a thread against forum policy.

Hey man, I'm all up for rushing, min/maxing and being efficient but you do have to give him the fact he is right according to maxers and a maxers definition. You didnt max everything which is what maxing is and thus you rushed. There is actually nothing wrong about that. You should feel good that you did what is right, fun, efficient and best for your approach and wants from the game.
December 3rd, 2016
Valthis

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Originally Posted by xQQx

Hey man, I'm all up for rushing, min/maxing and being efficient but you do have to give him the fact he is right according to maxers and a maxers definition. You didnt max everything which is what maxing is and thus you rushed. There is actually nothing wrong about that. You should feel good that you did what is right, fun, efficient and best for your approach and wants from the game.

Your a good guy xQQx, but I am a maxer. I maxed my entire base before moving on, with the exception of bits that didn't apply to me personally as I avoid war IE war troops. But I won't tolerate Aspex's harassment and personal attacks anymore. At least BLM stopped. I'm sick of proving myself right over and over and him just forcing me to respond over and over, insulting and demeaning me every step of the way. The fact remains that by definition and relevancy, I did infact max my base. I have never rushed and never will. I also mini-max my time, and consider myself a far above average player.

*EDIT* And I want nothing more than this thread to move back to its intended purpose before Aspex felt the need to hijack it along with BLM and forced me to respond.

*OTHER EDIT* And I'm all for rushers doing their own thing too. But I am not one and will never define myself as such.
December 3rd, 2016
SinOfDusk

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Originally Posted by Valthis

Your a good guy xQQx, but I am a maxer. I maxed my entire base before moving on, with the exception of bits that didn't apply to me personally as I avoid war IE war troops. But I won't tolerate Aspex's harassment and personal attacks anymore. At least BLM stopped. I'm sick of proving myself right over and over and him just forcing me to respond over and over, insulting and demeaning me every step of the way. The fact remains that by definition and relevancy, I did infact max my base. I have never rushed and never will. I also mini-max my time, and consider myself a far above average player.

*EDIT* And I want nothing more than this thread to move back to its intended purpose before Aspex felt the need to hijack it along with BLM and forced me to respond.

You cannot call yourself a maxer without everything maxed. You don't need to please these types of players. Lvl5 ad is rushed, lvl1 golem is rushed. They claim that you'll get wrecked with a single lvl9 archer tower and lvl5 teslas and you cannot farm with lvl1 dragons and lvl1 pekkas

Embrace that you rushed, and min/max away. You cannot argue with maxers
December 3rd, 2016
xQQx

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Originally Posted by Valthis

Your a good guy xQQx, but I am a maxer. I maxed my entire base before moving on, with the exception of bits that didn't apply to me personally as I avoid war IE war troops. But I won't tolerate Aspex's harassment and personal attacks anymore. At least BLM stopped. I'm sick of proving myself right over and over and him just forcing me to respond over and over, insulting and demeaning me every step of the way. The fact remains that by definition and relevancy, I did infact max my base. I have never rushed and never will. I also mini-max my time, and consider myself a far above average player.

*EDIT* And I want nothing more than this thread to move back to its intended purpose before Aspex felt the need to hijack it along with BLM and forced me to respond.

*OTHER EDIT* And I'm all for rushers doing their own thing too. But I am not one and will never define myself as such.

No worries man :)
On the other hand, I'm so rushed people would vomit if they see my base. They probably won't believe i made it to th9 with maxed farm troops, my war composition and only 5 cannons and 5 archer towers at level 1, hahahaha :D.
December 3rd, 2016
Valthis

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Originally Posted by SinOfDusk

You cannot call yourself a maxer without everything maxed. You don't need to please these types of players. Lvl5 ad is rushed, lvl1 golem is rushed. They claim that you'll get wrecked with a single lvl9 archer tower and lvl5 teslas and you cannot farm with lvl1 dragons and lvl1 pekkas

Embrace that you rushed, and min/max away. You cannot argue with maxers

I maxed by maxing every piece of the game relevant to me before moving on Sin. For the record, I managed to get to Champions League by attacking nothing but Mid TH9's from 2800- onward. Since they were the only targets capable of getting me any trophies that were even worth it up to that point. And since farming troops/General use troops were already maxed, I did in fact max before moving on.

I'm not going to argue semantics, especially not with you Sin, since I like you and am currently reading a guide you put up, but I do call myself a maxer, and consider "rushing" to be an insult to the way I play. Aspex knows this and has verbally harassed me for what I consider to be the last time. I won't tolerate it anymore.

I would refer to myself as a Mini-Maxer, or outright Maxer. If anything. I don't nor will I ever rush.

*EDIT* And please, let's try to get the thread back on topic before it was Hijacked.

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