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thats me he is talking too
I told him it was a hunt but actually it wasnt....i just told him that randomly for ♥♥♥♥s and giggles
And why someone takes screenshots from other clan chats....tell me topbtm was is your plan behind that?
And for someone like you its just naturally to defend uph like a little fanboy because your clan is doing it the same way they do...
BUSTED!Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
shame on you!
-Ok, assuming this is not a hunt....Lets see here: your clan MATCHED to UPH, and you have the nerve to say MY clan is doing the same way as they do? You have exactly the same lopsided bases as UPH, including the bunch of low bases at the bottom - that is why you matched in the first place! I am not going to waste time listing all the lopsided bases you have in your roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
-Pardon me for being a little fanboy because after all UPH had a 181 wins streak, while your clan had a measly best wins streak of only 11, not counting the 90 losses, while having the same exact composition as UPH. Sorry, you need to be better than that for me to become your fanboy.
-BTW, you don't know my clan so don't infer anything. Also, while I admire UPH record, I don't particularly think they are being smart with all those lopsided bases, especially since the October update. They should have done like Winterfell Gods and stop warring to keep their high wins streak. So, no, my clan does not have lopsided bases like UPH, or Winterfell Gods for that matter...
FYI, don't become a lawyer, logical arguments are not your strong suit.
Oh i know topbtm with their singlecannon and forever th8 bases
Dont care about that 11er winstreak because its not my main clan im just there from time to time for some days....and because winstreaks are such a big thing for you my main clan had a better streak than yours ^^ just saying
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It is quite an honor as lately, I have been rumored to be associated with UPH, then the Martians and now Top BTM. Ok I agree, my forum name is a bit confusing, but it refers to something else, not the clan Top BTM...google it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
BTW, Smurf please be a bit less lazy in your claims, cause it may look like you are lying. I just scanned Top BTM- they war 40v40, and in the 20 bases I looked at, there was only 1 TH10 defenseless and 1 TH9 defenseless. The rest are all standard maxxer bases, mostly from TH8 to TH10. I also doubt your clan had beaten Top BTM unbeaten streak of 258 wars...
I dont talk about unbeaten i mean winstreak...a draw isnt a win and kills your streak
You know there is only one clan with a bigger streak than UPH? #6ayMQuote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
and darn you TOPBTM
i just googled it... shouldve warned me to use incognito
Atm there ar about 43k clans with a better streak then uph......and i know the clan you mean but i was talking about top btw not uph
I havent followed the top leader boards that mutch anymore since my clan isnt #1 winstreak international anymore and that was spring last year....the only thing i see is that its changing all the time at some point every clan gets unlucky
i dont think topbtm is from topbtm.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
Hes either LGM or tango from #6ay or from UPH.
Though i must say, if you ran a super similiar engineered roster like UPH, yet your highest streak is 11, thats not that impressive.
Kudos for beating UPH though :thumbsup:
Isnt my main clan....there are just some guys i know and there have another clan with i think with 133 wins 1 loss and 3 draws.... im just a time to time guest there there...odessa munich is the clan where the members from the other clan go when they need a break from cw or want to try new stuff in cw or for new members so they can proof what they can stuff like that...the other clan is the tryhard one ^^
My main clan is a complete different thing and our highest real streak i mean without draws was 113 but its a long time ago spring 2015 atm we are at 262 wins 34 loss and 4 draws....not everyday clan but also not top edge
Nice.
I assume your clan is also engineered like UPH (atleast during that streak) ?
You mean the other clan from the odessa guys or my main clan?
The main clan. Odessa we already know is engineered.
My main clan isnt engeneired but we only make cw with th9 and below because we dont have any th10 or th11 in our clan i think thats a point.....and we are all skilled attackers
We are hoggers mostly and good with them
We also have a very skilled base builder in our clan he makes the layouts for us and each is effective and different
Nice.. though th9 is pretty easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
I think I found your clan also Ill PM you it... assuming the info you gave was accurate, i think I found it :)
Also how have you guys not been perfected in that 113 win streak doing th9 and below? Its obvious there is either roster engineering going on or more. Dont hide it :) Its commonk nowledge that without mods or engineering and good attacking skill, triple digit streaks are near impossible
I'm just impressed that United PH didn't disband when they lost their streak to those sneaky hunters...
Why should they? They still the best and i think they can rebuild it...
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Originally Posted by topbtm
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Originally Posted by topbtm
No, they can't rebuild it, because they "built" it on a spreadsheet rather than with elite attacking and defending skill. Now that there is a new war mm that gives less of an advantage to extreme engineers, they've lost 2 wars within a couple weeks. The only way they could "rebuild" would be if they actually learned to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
You cant gain skill when you faceroll a long time and play on easy mode ....on a normal cw with even enemys every attack must be planed....and if you dont need to do that you cant gain skill qnd if you had skill you lose it after a while
I give you that
I doubt UPh is great at attacking.
For sure, they are better than average, but not on level with more hardcore clans. Also, from what i saw, odessa was just slightly more better... they struggled to triple infernoless bases with th10 attacks.
Untited failed to 3 star a th9 with a max th11
And they gemmed two infernos and a xbow from nowhere on prep day.... on their #1
They are average attackers not more some of them where rly bad
Like I said, they arent that goodreat... but i wouldnt exactly considered the clan that beat them great either considering the outcome and attacks
I have not follow up with clan Top BTM for a while, but this is their record on June 2015: 127-0-1Quote:
Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...=1#post4835067
The clan then got its first loss at 259th war (no tie in between). Therefore at a minimum, it has a win streak of 132. IRRC, the streak was about 170 wins, therefore, higher than your clan.
Yeah yeah, I wish I were LGN...I read stuff in his site cocp.it and this the guy is a legend! As for Tango, no idea who it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeCleave
Smurf: you (and many jelly here) may say UPH is not impressive, but nevertheless, I do find your win over UPH very impressive. Your clan was the first to do what 181 previous clans failed to do. So yes, kudo!
UPH lost 2 wars within a couple weeks? where did you get that info?Quote:
Originally Posted by MossackFonseca
BTW, whatever you call elite attacking or defending skill...all of that is subjective. Even worst, those skills may be enhanced by modding skills. Therefore, assessing a clan by its win streak is a lot more objective -- although granted, UPH did not show spectacular attacking skill.
That's generally what happens under the given circumstances, however I'd wager that there are very few account holders as members of the clan. Not too tough to keep it together...Quote:
Originally Posted by MossackFonseca
This is a good summation of the situation, which is what smurf already had admitted to in his victory thread. Engineering trumps attacking ability, otherwise uph would have a very small win streak. It's why engineering came about.Quote:
Originally Posted by SupremeCleave
So what we said weeks ago was true. This is not a good attacking clan. The streak was not impressive. Good night.
The streak was very impressive due to the fact that very few people will ever achieve something similar. It takes a lot of dedication and most importantly consistency.Quote:
Originally Posted by RandalForce
The problem with "skilled attackers" is that they sometimes have bad days and don't get the result. Engineering has less bad days.
Tango holds the record for the amount of times he uses/used the word "clueless" in his posts (sometimes aimed at yours truly), although to be fair, he seemed to mellow a little in 'his old age'.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by topbtm
Whether their offenses can perfect the enemy every doesnt really matter.
whether they do this with their eyes closed doesnt really matter.
it wasnt engineering that allows them to dodge decent clans. it was great clan war searching plan, and extreme luck.
it doesnt matter whether they can easily destroy the enemy base. An engineered clan loses when the enemy perfected you.
So how do you think they avoided clans that perfected them, and how did they prevent everyone else to perfect them, for 200+ wars?
Was it base design? no
Was it roster engineering? partially
Was it the way they searched? yes, it helped alot.
Was it luck? yes, it is the biggest contributing factor here.
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Originally Posted by BigPapaSmurfhsk
th11 fail dip on a th9...yeah, hardly "spectacular"...Quote:
Originally Posted by topbtm
The 11 probably attacked up since it was probably the #6 on their map. Speaking about real manipulation of the MM, adding crazy defenses after the match has already been matched is pretty dirty.
Surprised they didn't do more to protect the win streak.
There th11 was mirrored to our th8 it had max troops But Not a max HC But i think that is pretty mutch irrelevant because max Dragloon with max Zap and warden is an Overkill to any th9 i Know it because i own a th11 singlecannon with max Dragloon and Zap with a lvl 5 warden :D
Nothing Special.
95% or Wars end up with the top 2-3 bases making the difference.
Engineered bases make this Way easier.
Yep, glad someone knows what they are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by FunnyStuff
Bottom 90% of the bases mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Yet, when you have a jacked-and-tan th11 with 45/45/20 heroes sitting at #18 amongst the th9s, you get free top hits because #18 is going to be 3 starred regardless.
Granted, 200 war win streak is a neat number; but since it's done the easy way, it isn't impressive at all.