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*yawns* engineer trash. What else is new? How many clans did you fail to congratulate that do and have done the same thing? I'm guessing over 100? 200? Yes, yes we're all very impressed.
Lol I'm sure some solid research went into those numbers. Let me try.
10% of all gemmed TH11s, 3 star TH11s everytime
10% of all friendly wars are sponsored by Pepsi
10% of percents told on the Internet are slightly less made up then the 90% that are complete 💩
That was fun
Yeah, old pic but the visible defense remains the same - one little cannon!
http://i.imgur.com/EqAguej.jpg
In Soviet Russia clans engineer you.
Im surprised they have faced th10s at top.
If thats the case, the enemy should be able to perfect them just as easily as they can to them.
Looks like they finally lost the winning streak. None too soon if you ask me, I'd love to see what that matchup looked like.
Why are we talking about this clan? Can we please stop talking about this clan? The only clan we should be talking about is a clan with 50 MAX TH11's that nobody can beat in a war. That's the clan we should be talking about. Not this war manipulating, beat up on weak opponents clan. They are not the best. Never will be. The real killers are the max th11's that get paired against other max th11's and dont lose often. So please, put a lid on this thread. Whata joke lol
Aspex, stop trolling me. All I do is see you trolling people on here. I dont always post negative, just sometimes when I feel just. Dont post on my posts. You never add anything positive on anything I say. So, stop talking to me.oh, and you telling me not to dictate?? Thats all you do on here.
Btm, I just dont think we should be talking about this clan. Theyre not impressive. Impressive are people who are the best at things. We watch the NFL because theyre the best football players. We watch the NBA because theyre the best basketball players. This clan is not the best. And frankly, theyre getting entirely too much attention on here now. Its wasting forum space.
OK I read this thread, you say it was a "hunt". But all they did was put together a war line up that was similar to yours, which the match maker deemed to be close enough to make a match up.
Seems to me they just had better attacks where it counted and you skimped out on gems and went to war with a hero down?
Correct me if I am wrong, but you seem to have lost to a better strategizing clan.
Well that's what is a hunt isn't it XD
And I dont think topbtm is from UPH anyway
Sure go cheer to ITD lol
As you said, "Impressive are people who are the best at things" -- well weren't they the best in what they did? Lots of clans fill themselves with super low weight accounts but none get to 200+ winstreak
When have I ever trolled, either you or anyone? Saying things that you do not like is not trolling. I posted in direct response to a post that I considered to be an attempt to limit conversation to what you feel is acceptable, in much the same way that I post in response to your posts where you say that people should only play the game in a way that you think acceptable. People will have different interests and views to yours and have just as much right to post them as you do.
WRT you saying that I dictate, pointing out that posts should be in the correct sub-forum or thread is a far cry from saying that they should not be made at all. One is good forum etiquette, the other is an attempt to stifle discussion. There is a massive difference.
Btm is not from uph. I know where he's from, i will respect his privacy. And no, theyre not the best. Th11's without inferno towers are a joke. So its not impressive. Cleaning town halls every war is exactly what is wrong with this game today. Just because they figured out how to manipulate wars in their favor, doesnt make them the best. Attacking and defending against equal strength clans is what's impressive
Just know, that I read alot on here. And when I see your name, I read it. And most of the time, you shut down ideas and you're very condescending. And that is a fact. I advocate what is good for this game. Fair play, EQUAL play (which engineering and angling for advantages in war matchups is not, I dont care what the TOS says, which you always make sure you mention, maybe youre not a good attacker yourself and you need to clean lower town halls to make yourself feel better and youre praying they dont fix it, Idk). Just im asking you respectfully, dont reply to any of my posts. Im done with you. Its better that way.
Daddylindo please stop shutting down ideas that involve strategies you dont approve of. While you at it please be positive about allowing people to have the freedom to play this game how they like vs being so negative about engineers. Have solutions that benefit both maxers and engineers. Thank you.
The solution is setting guidelines for war eligibilty. Thats the solution. That will make it error-proof to find nothing but a fair war. Again, I dont mind when you upgrade to a new town hall, you do your offense first, thats what a smart person would do. Either that or you sit wars because you dont want to bring a strong counter-part without having the attacking power to pull your weight. I understand that a new town hall is a big jump and learning curve. When a th9 goes to th10, now hes gotta deal with inferno towers, freeeze spells, more defenses, etc... you need the troops. So get the troops first, then drop your infernos so you can DEFEND yourself. Why would anybody wanna NOT defend themselves?? Why? Cuz it they can fool the matchmaking into thinking maybe they dont have 5 th10's, so lets match them against a clan that has 3 th10's. Thats not impressive. People are EXPLOITING it. We've created an environment in this game where people have to engineer to counter-engineer the engineers!! I visit clans all the time and I keep seeing co-leaders recruiting new members and telling them as soon as they join what to upgrade and what not to upgrade... isnt that telling people how to play the game?? Its ridiculous. Seems like an unnecessary fat that could easily be cut out. So quit the argument of "stop telling people how to play", because it's ultimately affecting how the rest of us that play, the game was supposed to be played, by ruining the war experience.
You need to chill.
SC has already significantly nerfed engineered bases in october (specifically .5s) and I suspect this update as well.
What they arent going to do, is completely annihilate them and eliminate all diversity by using your suggestions so you can get easier wars.
For the vast majority of wars, wars are overwhelmingly fair. If they weren't SC would easily change it. SC has already acnkowledged engineered bases and said they will make wars more fair and based on skill (which it for the most part already is).
They wont listen to incessant squabbles
Why does diversity matter? If most of the good clans all had maxxed bases, what would the problem be? The goal of the game is to upgrade your base. That's kind of the point of coc and every coc clone. You raid, you collect, you upgrade. Why would CW suddenly encourage getting to a specific overpowered spot and sitting there?
Hey guys whats their clan tag
[QUOTE=VeeBirds;9189035
Sure go cheer to ITD lol
As you said, "Impressive are people who are the best at things" -- well weren't they the best in what they did? Lots of clans fill themselves with super low weight accounts but none get to 200+ winstreak[/QUOTE]
Up until recently, th10 and th11 wars are dominated by modders. I see nothing impressive with that. My clan chose to stay in the th8/th9 range purposely to avoid those boring modders wars. I can't talk for UPH, but most of my clan mates have max th10/th11 main base, and they have no issue facing 'elite' clans with maxed th11.
The thing is, lots of keyboard warriors are discounting UPH effort/record without understanding what it's entails. Even Odessa Munich, (the hunter) claimed that UPH was unimpressive yet
-it only beat UPH by one star,
-it has 3 th10s, yet failed to 3 star UPH n1 base, which was only a mid th10,
-it even failed to destroy one UPH's th9 with one of its th10 attack...
The next time anyone accusing UPH of not being impressive, please invite me over to your clan so I can destroy your arguments like I did with Odessa Munich.
I am no fan boy of UPH, but I give credit where it is due. Frankly, as far I am concerned, there is only one clan that can really claim the UPH record is unimpressive...and I doubt many of you is part of that clan.
I think people should enjoy this game and play how they want to play. Whether it involves gemming, rushing, engineering, trophy pushing or like I did, maxing my base with low war stars because I never had heroes. What one does on his account shouldn't affect you and if it does, there might be an underlying problem.
This also goes for what people are interested in and chat about. People chat about college sports and those guys are far from the best at their sport. Why criticize what others talk about? If you don't want to talk about it or read about, don't click the link. It's not that hard of a thing to do.
You are not 'dealing' with anybody daddylindo. You are aggressive, and do not warrant or consider any opinion that is different from your own. Words are easy, using words in a polite and respectful manner is clearly more difficult for some.
The whole 'I'm done with you' and 'your very condescending, that' is a fact' posts are clearly not facts at all, and imo are nothing short of embarrassing tbh. This seems to be a reoccurring theme.
Absolutely not. I value people's opinion when it's for the growth and betterment of the game. Aspex lays low for me on these forums and I've finally had it. I simply dont have anything else to say to him. And I dont need a peanut gallery making comments out of nowhere when it doesnt involve them with my wanting to mot speak with him anymore. Im on here everyday advocating for fair, HEALTHY play. Enginnering is not HEALTHY, because of the level that people take it to. And I disagree totally with btm that this streak is impressive. Only thing impressive about this streak is how they managed to manipulate the war mm so many times in a row... i mean, if we're gonna pat the deceptors of the game on the back, Im NOT ok with it. Im a purist, I put my time into this game, I learn new attacks and practice and excel at them. I dont want wars where the tops are heavily mismatched in one clan's favor, that is total ♥♥. And I dont wanna sit there and accept it and move on. I want the matchmaker fixed. I want parameters set for war eligibility, then everybody else can accept those parameters and adapt to what I feel is right for the game, and that is: Even wars, attacking/defending, and clan management stategizing to maximize stars/percentage. Not "cleaning the whole clan sweeping down in an hour, getting 100% total distruction all the time, and only being able to be tied and not get beaten, that is NOT healthy for the game. So, set the parameters, and let everybody adjust and start playing the game the way it was supposed to be played. Theyre invested too much money now they will not walk away from the game the engineers. They'll cry only for a short time then come around to it, just like the cigarette smokers did when restaurants banned smoking inside, they went outside for a cigarette. So they could still smoke, but everyone inside didnt have their meals ruined because of the few. Same thing here. I want everyone that plays this game to have a great time. I come up with ideas that i think would improve the game speaking from experience, and fair play, which engineering is not, is not gonna be advocated by me.
I won't lie I'm not going to read your whole wall of text. But if you think we should be talking about something else, start your own thread daddylindo? Since we're on page 25 now, it appears some people ARE interested in long streaks, hyper engineered clans.
Anyone know if United PH changed substantially after the loss? I know they're warring still, but don't know enough about their previous makeup to say if they lost a ton of people when the streak died.
Whats their tag? I cant find them
You seem REALLY upset for some reasons.
Any clan can play how they want. It's fact that UPH put effort into what they did, it's not an opinion. Many clans are "engineered" but basically none can reach such long unbeaten streak. You put your time into your purism they put their time into making a war lineup that can't be beaten. What do you have to show? Or can you try and beat them?
But I see from the rest of your post you are one of those "maxing is the only way to play, everything else must be removed" and you use the phrase "the way it was supposed to be played" unironically so I won't waste time on your posts anymore.
Just realize every clan/player that has the best/highest something got there by exploiting (with or without TPA) (I'm not justifying TPAs).
Highest wins clan -> matching dummy clans over and over
Highest win streak -> UPH & Co -like war lineups
And if you wanna cheer for elite/twc war clans then I have other bad news for your purist views
You mean the leaderboard would be filled with modding clans
And that leaderboard exists here you go https://cocp.it/tops/rhl
This would have to be a new feature. And they can ban modders. They can do what they want. How would u know who mods?? Are you sure your opponents everyday dont mod? They would look at the clans on the leaderboard. This discredits the united ph's of the world cuz there avg clan weight wouldnt be high enough. Let the engineers have their own MICKEY MOUSE winstreak division
Every player would have a number for weight. The .5's would be holding their clan back, cuz the weight wouldnt pull them up the leaderboard. So .5ing would be discouraged. This promotes upgrading. .5ing would only be for clans who care about the winstreak division, not the clan laddet for clans that wanna be the best
DL i saw your war log. Nice log.
But I also see a lot of wars won by a fairly large margin. You claim that you get lots of competitive talented wars, yet over half of them you win by a somewhat large margin.
If you really want compettive wars, shouldnt you be alright with engineers providing the challenge? Seems like you face a lot of casual, high defense, rushed clans and sometimes the odd competitive hardcore war clan, and even less, an engineered one.
I love how you pump up UnitedPH, in a very fanboyish manner, across 300++ posts in 2 different threads, then claim that you're not a fanboy. Your behavior is exactly that of a fanboy, or perhaps of a promoter.
I've spent most of the thread doing exactly that, and I think that your antics are very distracting. Keep your focus on the topic at hand, if you have a problem with a specific person and feel that he's harassing you then report him and let the mods sort it out.
If you can believe me supreme, those percentages are all earned. We have a majority of th9's. We have 2 th11's, 1 th10, bunch of th9's and some 8's. We always clean the th9's with our th9's. Sometimes we have to clean a stingy th9 or two with our th10. So our destruction is earned. Which is why im very passionate against engineering. And we always face hard-nosed th9's. We dont face purple-walled, low level hero th9's.
Always? Really? My clan wars are 80% th9/10, with the occasional 11 or a couple max 8's with 55k weight thrown in. We are typically able to clear all enemy th9's, or nearly all of them, with our th9's, it sounds like my clan has a pretty similar makeup to yours. Yet, it's a rare thing when we don't see some purple walls somewhere. Sometimes we'll even see somewhat rushed th11's with at least some purple walls, does that count?
Actually, we have a lot more th10's than you, total roster is something like 2 th11, 15 th 10, 25 th9, 4 th8 I think, with most wars 15 or 20 man depending upon who's got heroes upgrading.
The best is some type of clan ladder. Which clan on AVERAGE, wars with the highest average weighted players. THey average out the weight of all the players they put in their wars. Then they factor in: Total destruction, stars, amount of wars and number of players in war. This would all have to factor in, with destruction and stars weighing the most perhaps. Then a leaderboard is set. So perhaps it could take a couple of months of wars to set a top 200 or so. Then from there, maybe it could be clan ladders. Where clan's can challenge other clans above them within a certain range, say 10 spots. The challenging clan sets their lineup, and then the higher clan selects players that fall within the range. If the lower clan wins, they jump up x amount of spots. If they lose, they fall down further. The clan that consistently stays on top of that leaderboard, will ultimately be a clan that wars with all th11's. And that gives players something to aim for. And each year the leaderboards reset. And the previous year's final standings stay posted the next year. You can also have town hall divisions. There are all th9 clans out there, give them a platform too... th10, etc. Make this game fun!!!
Yeah we need th10's. We have two th9's that just jumped. I cant find anyone reliable in global. And i dont like strangers with such high responsibility. So unfortunately, we'll just have to wait until we have more 9's that jump. We only see purple walls at the very bottom of their th9 list, which they are irrelevant and 3 starred without question.
Yeah.. but the margin of which you win by suggests that the wars really aren't that competitive. Why is that?
I was laughing at the purple walls comment earlier, we typically see anything from skulls to lavas on opponent 9's, but this war enemy's 2nd lowest 9 has mostly purple walls. They also outnumber us 2-1 in th11's, with same number of 10's. Of course, they also look to be proficient in gowipe, so I'm not too fearful of defeat at this point...
Jump to th10 has proven to be very tough for us, most of your best clashers spend months and months working on heroes, then they have to learn how to attack infernos properly...it's a whole nother level from th9. We're still winning most of our wars, but it's more like 75% instead of 90% now, and lots of ties broken on % and 1-2 star wins/losses too.
I would say the best of the best are in the CWL. It's 100% fair play, even playing field and no way to manipulate the system. Only real difference may lie in a few TH9s having just 25/25 heroes vs 30/30, and that makes very little difference at TH9 these days...So yes, as of right now, CWL clans r among the best in the world. The best in the world don't manipulate the system to gain an edge. They fight against the best and look to earn the crown in the end. As anyone's philosophy may be..."If u want to be the best, u must beat the best."
You must not be looking at enough war logs. First off, our destruction probably averages out to about 95%, which is the sign of a good clan. It's not littered with 99's and 100's which is the sign of an engineered clan and/or a clan full of th7's and 8's. Secondly, a bunch of our opponents have % in the 90's as well. The wars we lost, we were at a disadvantage town hall wise. The only war within the 2 months that we lost in which the war was dead evenly matched was 40 days ago to a greek clan. And we tipped our hats. We should've won, but with a disconnect at a crucial time and 99% on one of their th10's, we lost. But they still were a very good attacking clan that earned the win. But we usually are not advantaged. And thats one of the downsides of playing the game the way it was intended i guess....
Yeah Mossack ive been to a few clans to see what kind of wars they get. And the clans ive visited are conscientious of their war weight. Again, I am all for doing army camps, spell factory and lab first, and then getting a new couple troops when you go to a new th. But these clans are waiting til they get 20/20 heroes before they drop xbows, th10's waiting til they catch up defenses and getting heroes well into the 30's without infernos, and it seems excessive. And im looking at the opponents that theyre drawing, and its almost laughable. Purple and skull walls with low teenage heroes, just weak th9's. We dont see these opponents. Most of the th9's we see have 40+ heroes, lego and max walls, etc... and i enjoy that competition. It keeps us intrigued. I wouldnt want to play the game any other way. And I think some of these engineered clans are gonna get a wake up call if something drastic happens with the mm... and im really rooting for it :)
Surely we have fun, and do you ever consider why we engineered, I just played this game for 14 months and be a th10 for 3-4 months, even with all our engineered efforts with current mm we still draw inferno, and we draw 2 Eagles without any single Eagle in our side in last 5 wars, but it is OK so it is part of my learning curve
Really enjoying with all of the roster management, and all engineering things
First of all, there is nothing wrong with a hunt. It is all good. SC does not like that, but personally I have no issue.
I had people going over to Odessa clan, and they themselves said so. It is also exactly that reason I was able to get all the details of that war, and frankly I was able to see that the hunters were not impressive, even though it is the exact term they use to describe UPH.
Typical topbtm response. Egotistical, arrogant, and god like... If you're so high and mighty, tell us where you're from and what you're all about.
LOL, ya know Daddylindo, out of all the whiner you're one of my least faves here, it is really difficult to tolerate your aggressiveness, I was very happy when you posted https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...ght=Daddylindo
But I think I am wrong
Well thank you.
Strange with that name I figured you were from clan top btm. Which has an outstanding record but mainly roster engineers winning basically th8 wars. So you originally posted congrats to UPH kind of acting like you weren't part of the clan.... Then later on claiming you were a fan boy... now saying your part of that clan. I'm confused and would appreciate if you could get your story straight and give us some truth about the mysterious top btm....
[QUOTE=KingKreg;9201447
Strange with that name I figured you were from clan top btm. Which has an outstanding record but mainly roster engineers winning basically th8 wars. So you originally posted congrats to UPH kind of acting like you weren't part of the clan.... Then later on claiming you were a fan boy... now saying your part of that clan. I'm confused and would appreciate if you could get your story straight and give us some truth about the mysterious top btm....[/QUOTE]
Top btm does not refer to clan Top BTM. It refers to something else...go ahead Google it.
well here is something especially for you:
https://www.quora.com/Why-do-some-pe...rstand-sarcasm
Everybody having fun ? Let's hope 2017 brings a new mutual respect , non antagonistic , Clan wars sub forum....
....hope springs eternal...🙄
UPH already received a lose restarting its streak to 4. This clan did not beat supercell.
@MossackFonseca
OP from the "UnitedPH winstreak broken" here ....
Dont let topbtm fool you it wasnt a 2 month hunt....you can see that clearly in the warlog from Odessa Munich there where only 8 40vs40 cws befor hitting on UnitedPH
And it wasnt a hunt we had only about the same overall warweight and bases.....okay not as good as UnitedPH 's like their nearly max th11 but overall close
It was a lucky hit nothing more and we took that chance.....and we won even with the cheep tricks unitedPH used
And btw Odessa munich isnt my main clan i was just a part time member from time to time and i was lucky to be in that war
Not sure why it is such a big deal to deny it...maybe you were not even part of the plan to start with since it is not your main clan? Check the conversation...link below...
http://imgur.com/a/TtTsq
I love a bit of intrigue!:)
i love how this subforum is owned by 2 (D & S) ^^