Army Training Revamp & Quick Train

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Originally Posted by ProfChaos

Some fair points, save a few major ones.

Firstly, you can currently cue up a second army before starting your first attack and in your case it would still be entirely done before you complete said first attack, or almost nearly, as would your heroes. So the argument that having a second ENTIRE army makes zero difference in the scenario you present, as you already have that.

Secondly, the notion that players should not use perfectly good raiding strategies because the new system will make them take longer is ludicrous. A new system should not have a major flaw like this and effectively make farming longer and more expensive. It is nonsensical.

I wonder if at any point in your exposition you consider anything other than your current situation. Can you recall times when your barracks were not all maxed or you had one or more under upgrade? If so consider how much worse the new system would be. Less barracks working, slower cook times, bottlenecks on cooking troops that have only been unlocked from a small number of barracks. This is not an improvement.

You are correct SC does not force anyone to buy gems or use the free ones to boost or otherwise, for that matter no one even has to download the app or log in, but we all do. Saying because it's free or not mandatoty is no excuse to break a functional flexible system that currently benefits any player at any league or level in favor of an all or nothing approach that includes a massive price hike.

Did they intend to have 8+ buildings used in army creation? Doubtful. Did they intend for army training times to soar with the addition of every new troop? Again doubtful? To correct that they've taken simple steps to reduce training times on individual units and spells. But to correct the multi cue problem by breaking it in favor of something streamlined full of built in defects isn't an improvement.

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It's not a flaw - it's an intended design consequence. SC does this **** all the time - they want the game played the way they "intend" it to be played. And to be perfectly frank, that's their prerogative as long as it pays the bills.

Complain all you like, but the revamp is going to happen, and in all likelihood nothing is gonna change unless ppl stop using gems to boost troop training time (which isn't likely going to happen).

At the end of the day, the old system will be forgotten and in a years time, we'll be reminiscing about it like th sniping and all the other old things that we used to do in the game. it's called progress.

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Originally Posted by GastonOrozco

It's not a flaw - it's an intended design consequence. SC does this **** all the time - they want the game played the way they "intend" it to be played. And to be perfectly frank, that's their prerogative as long as it pays the bills.

Complain all you like, but the revamp is going to happen, and in all likelihood nothing is gonna change unless ppl stop using gems to boost troop training time (which isn't likely going to happen).

At the end of the day, the old system will be forgotten and in a years time, we'll be reminiscing about it like th sniping and all the other old things that we used to do in the game. it's called progress.

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Removal of the TH snipe and the overhaul barracks system are completely different animals. One effects the entire community and the other is a supposed quality of life improvement.

Calling a flawed system progress and just laying back and taking it is not how the forums were intended to work. For proof see FC not being in game sandboxing, ad re-skin re-skin, expanded vg at all levels, the list goes on and on.

I can't wait... It's make clash of clans netter..

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Originally Posted by ProfChaos

Removal of the TH snipe and the overhaul barracks system are completely different animals. One effects the entire community and the other is a supposed quality of life improvement.

Calling a flawed system progress and just laying back and taking it is not how the forums were intended to work. For proof see FC not being in game sandboxing, ad re-skin re-skin, expanded vg at all levels, the list goes on and on.

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If it's a flaw, it will be fixed. But it's not a flaw since "making ppl use heavier comps" is something SC has tried to steer players to use since like... forever. Therefore you can assume it's a design feature. Plus, it'll probably make them more money. So guess it's a double-win for SC. lol.

Amazing how naive people are falling into the trap and excuse of "design value of simplicity" (LOL). Once again we are treated like morons that were born yesterday.

Nobody asked for a revamp of the training system, on the other hand people have been asking for years for the possibility to save army compositions that was denied by SuperSteve, because of the "design value against automatization" (LOL).

Now suddenly "simplicity" trumps?

First of all, you don't have any "design values".

Look at that mess that is called Townhall 10 in terms of artistic direction. The same thing can be said about the troops' concept (aka bowler and miner) Where are those design values? And second, if you had any, or the ones that are left, are being constantly compromised by your greed and being changed according to how you can make the most money (training system revamp is the perfect example, and suddenly you are for automatization?).

You are lucky you are mostly dealing with minors and very naive and gullible people.

I welcome the army preset and quick train feature. I am one of the earliest ones to request this feature many months ago. Surprisingly, a lot of senior members of this forum had then responded saying this feature was never going to be introduced calling it 'impractical'. But now, it's finally coming out.

preset army and quick train seem a good idea that have both been asked for plenty of times, and just like with all of the other updates, we will get used to any other new changes pretty quickly. be firmly flexible.

Stupid cash grab update. Rip gem boost.

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Originally Posted by Tisme

preset army and quick train seem a good idea that have both been asked for plenty of times, and just like with all of the other updates, we will get used to any other new changes pretty quickly. be firmly flexible.

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sure, we will . we have NO choice, like many will say here: adapt or quit

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Originally Posted by AresMars

sure, we will . we have NO choice, like many will say here: adapt or quit

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and like many will say that they are going to quit, and then just forget to do so and keep on playing lol.