The training time of this troops is to long, i think that pekkas and golem requiered 30 minutes, the valkyrie 10 minutes and dragons 20 minutes.
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The training time of this troops is to long, i think that pekkas and golem requiered 30 minutes, the valkyrie 10 minutes and dragons 20 minutes.
I would say reduce the time of Balloons and Wizards because 10minutes are ridiculous. I almost never use them because 10minutes training time is way too long.
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Yeah i agree with you, is too long, i dont use them by the same reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoosGianni
Valkyrie's I would agree on, but i see no reason in the others. Wizard and balloons IMO are the ones that need work.
Chat on forums while they train
I agree with you 12 wizards takes 1 hr 59 minQuote:
Originally Posted by RoosGianni
Sure, you can use the chat but wait 45 minutes for one pekka or golem is too munch!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbob2000
I think its fine makes it to were high levels can't attack every 30mins when trophy pushing and shows the importance of a good balance of tier 1,2,and 3 although the balloons and wizards times are ridiculous and need to be changed
That's why you get your barracks all leveled up to train them. So you can train 12 of them in 30 min. 3 each.Quote:
Originally Posted by Undercover
There's a reason why they take this much. Dragons Pekkas and golems are powerful. If they took shorter bases would be 3 starred more often. I say wizards and balloons should be 5 minutes though.
I am totally agree with you de training time of balloons, si zares, pekkas and golems need to be chagend.Quote:
Originally Posted by DakotaDeal
I think it's fine.
The game is more funny if you can atack more quickly, is necesary a least time of training to pekkas, golems, wizzards, balloons, valkyrie and dragon.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoTemp
You need to be patient to play this game. They could have make it 1hr to train a pekka so don't complainQuote:
Originally Posted by Phantomy
And if they reduce the time i will be online while waiting for my troops so no one can raid me...
If reducing balloon's training time, I agree, but for wizard, pekkas, golems, valkyrie, dragon??? They're strong, reducing their training time would make them over-powered, personally I do want to reduce the training time of wizard, but it's just unfair. If you want to use strong troops more often, then gem it, if you don't want to use gem, then wait for it patiently. Remember, no pain no gain.
Even if you have them all leveled up your not just going to use 12 wizards. Still have to make other troops. Which then equals around 45 to 1 hr each barracks if you fill your camps. They should be 5 minutes each but keep the housing space requirements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bombadil
Well. Wizards indeed are strong, but they have low health. This makes them vulnerable to WT and mortar.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverSky
So, SC should reduces the time to train this wizard.
Thats if you can only make them on 1 barracks, it isn't too hard to get all the barracks up to level 7. Atm i have 2 level 9 and 2 level 8 barracksQuote:
Originally Posted by Undercover
I think that the more that you upgrade your barracks the quicker they trains troops
They've reduced the time for dragons before, and I think its balanced now.
Nah they didn't reduce drags. If you played this game for a long time then you would remeber pekka's used to be 1 hour. I think the time doesn't need to be reduced for pekka's and drags but maybe golems and definantly ballons and wizards.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronCZY
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I would say reduce the time of Balloons and Wizards because 10minutes are ridiculous. I almost never use them because 10minutes training time is way too long.
Sorry about the weird quote thing, I had to copy paste it because I forgot to post this in reply to it. A lot of people under estimate balloons, they are good in numbers and if you know how to use them, they can do some damage.
Level 4 Balloon:
- 72 damage per second
- 280 HP
- 3,500 elixir
- 10 minute training time
- 5 Housing spaces
Level 2 Dragon:
- 160 damage per second
- 2100 HP
- 30,000 elixir
- 30 minutes training time
- 20 Housing spaces
Although the level 2 Dragon may seem like the better choice, 4 Balloons (same amount of housing spaces) has more DPS (288). Yes the HP is nowhere near the level 2 Dragon, but, in large numbers, the balloons could be a better choice. If you were to train 4 Balloons in one barracks it would take 40 minutes. This is obviously more then the dragon training time, but, because you unlock the balloons at a much lower barracks level, you are more likely to have 4 barracks capable of training these. If you spread them out across the 4 barracks it only takes 10 minutes. 4 Balloons also cost less then 1 Dragon.
- 1 Level 2 Dragon = 30,000 elixir
- 4 Level 3 Balloons= 14,000 elixir
That is less than half of the cost of 1 Dragon.
Both units do splash damage but the Balloons, when killed, fall to the ground and do additional damage. The Balloons' favorite target is defenses, making it the ideal defense killer. Balloons don't have to be a replacement to your Dragon but can be a great addition to your army because both units can be used very differently.
With all this being said, I would like to say that I don't think the training times for the Balloons need to be changed. I believe SuperCell has put in quite a bit of thought into training times, costs, etc. All the factual business above this is just to show that Balloons are in the same league as Dragons, Pekkas, Golems, etc. So I think the training time should stay the same for the Balloons.
Wizards on the other hand. I would be happy with the training times being lowered to ~5 minutes. This seems like a reasonable time for what your getting out of the troop.
Yes it can be a bit frustrating if you're on a time crunch and need to attack before you leave for school or work, but that's where the gem industry comes into play. But that's a whole other post, so I wont get into that.
Everything other than the facts is opinion based, you may have a different opinion or analyze the facts in a totally different perspective. Either way, don't hate on this post if you don't like my opinion because that's all it is, and opinion.
Hope you took something away from this and have a new perspective on Balloons. Sorry for the long read. Have a Great Day :cool:
Sources: Super Cell wiki, In Game experience.
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I second that, Wizards should be a bit shorter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantomy
Unless you put some giants and healer before the wizards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dev
All the training times feel about right for me as they are...
If I want an uber-army, I just have to wait it out (which I do not do any more, I brew a couple of big raids per day while I'm asleep / at work). Otherwise, I train a quicker, probably less powerful but still just fine army, and raid more often.
One thing is for sure, I don't want any more uber-armies coming and trashing my own base, I get enough of those already... if training times were reduced, I'd never get tier-one troops attacking my base, so I'd never get those nice 40-odd-% raids which give me a shield, and also some cups.
Even lowering wizards training time doesn't feel right to me - occasionally I'll brew a couple while I'm online raiding, but if you reduced it to 5 minutes I'm pretty sure I'd have 2-4 in every build because they are very powerful compared to archers, and so would everyone else, so again my base would get smashed harder with every raid it faces...
Falls maybe, but Dragons, Pekkas, and Golems are very powerful as it is and are relatively cheep for their destructive power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phantomy
Wizards and Balloons need a time decrease though
dragon, no
pekka, maybe
balloon, yes
wizard, maybe a little
valkyrie, Heck yes!
hog rider, also yes
golem... I'd go with no
I think you are over-estimating the balloons.Quote:
Originally Posted by criptic
Balloons are way to slow and so they get easily picked off by Air defenses and Archer Towers. While 4 balloons have higher DPS than a dragon, their performance drastically decreases with each unit lost. And since they have much lower health than dragons, drags are still the superior choice.
Since balloons are so slow, and they don't get ranged attacks like Dragons and Minions, they are quickly picked off by any defensive tower that can target air long before they get to the actual unit. Depending on levels, you will loose about 3 or so balloons long before the group of balloons reaches the defense to attack it. By that time, the performance of your mass balloon army is drastically cut down. And that's just to take out one tower.
100% agree with this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by hastur