Worst War Matchup In History! .5 Gone Wild!

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Originally Posted by JtB

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Our #3 in war is a town hall 10 with level 1 xbows and level 1 infernos. Their #3 is a town hall 11 with maxed warden, maxed queen, and a level 34 King.

Our #1 is a town hall 10 with level 1 infernos and level 3 xbows. Their #1 is a maxed town hall 11 with maxed defense, heroes, offense.

They have 7 town hall 11's, we have none. There is no way this matchup is even remotely fair, permanent .5 bases ruining wars as usual. The bottom of the map is equal, we do not have an advantage there.

In in the last 20 wars we are 15-5, they are 19-1. Don't think that matches up too closely either, the war search lasted 45 minutes. What gives?

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Also why are your guys in war rushed? Stop rushing your ths and you have no problems.

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Originally Posted by BLM

It's probably your th lvl spread. So if you have th10s, th9s and th8s do not put anything in war smaller than a th8. Only use a spread of 3 th lvls in war and you won't match bad.

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I don't think you understand how matchmaking works. It has nothing to do with the spread, it has everything to do with total war weight of the roster. If you bring a handful of TH3's to war, you will either face a similar roster or gain an advantage elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by JtB

Have stated numerous times in this thread PERMANENT .5 bases are the problem, they do this for an unfair advantage in war. I see this in mixed clan wars almost every war, defenseless bases and permanent .5 bases.

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It's not unfair and fits within the game play. It's called a strategy and you have the same opportunity to do it as well. It is actually very difficult and time consuming to build engineering bases out. It's like complaining someone in your family is richer than you and is unfair. Well you could be rich too if you stop being lazy and work for ut.

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Originally Posted by Milo123

I don't think you understand how matchmaking works. It has nothing to do with the spread, it has everything to do with total war weight of the roster. If you bring a handful of TH3's to war, you will either face a similar roster or gain an advantage elsewhere.

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I know exactly how it works, i set up arrange wars. Yes a th spread has everything to do with a total war weight amount, that's why i said it. If you have 5 th10s, 5 th9s and and 3 th8s, then last 7 are th4s in a 20vs20 your total weight can make you match with 3 th11s, 3 th10s, 4 th9s, 8 th8s and 2 th7s.
Why? Because you through off the matching and lowered your overall weight by throwing in the th4s causing a wider spread.

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Originally Posted by dansta31

OP complains about engineered clans every few days. This is the norm and it's always the same format. His solutions are always the same and he is pushing everyone towards being maxers.

#truth

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This^^^^^^

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Originally Posted by Milo123

I don't think you understand how matchmaking works. It has nothing to do with the spread, it has everything to do with total war weight of the roster. If you bring a handful of TH3's to war, you will either face a similar roster or gain an advantage elsewhere.

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You didn't read the release notes for the MM update earlier this year then? In which SC confirmed that matchmaking worked on a "lane-by-lane" (what the rest of us call mirror) comparison. Prior to the update it had not calculated total or average weight at all.
After the update it does calculate an average as an additional check, but the main match is still done on mirrors.

So composition is very important. One difficulty of a wider spread is it gets less and less likely there will be another matching clan with exactly the same mix; so the matches tend to get a loopier as the spread increases.

(Having said that because the difference between a TH3 and TH7 isn't all that large anyway, sticking some TH3/defenceless on the bottom does tend to give the advantage at the top)

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Originally Posted by JtB

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This clan is 32-1 in their last 33 wars using the permanent .5 strategy. Supercell, is this what you want mixed wars to become? Nothing but defenseless and permanent .5 bases?

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You keep saying they are using. 5s but then say they all have max defense to your low lvl defense. Which is it, are they max defense or .5s low defense?

Your stories never add up and when people ask you details about your clans th lvls from beginning to end and your clans offense and defense you invade the question by keep saying there win streak. Either you're lying or your not understanding what .5s are and how war matches work.

Ok lets try this, what is your clan tag so we can view what bases you all have?

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Originally Posted by BLM

I know exactly how it works, i set up arrange wars. Yes a th spread has everything to do with a total war weight amount, that's why i said it. If you have 5 th10s, 5 th9s and and 3 th8s, then last 7 are th4s in a 20vs20 your total weight can make you match with 3 th11s, 3 th10s, 4 th9s, 8 th8s and 2 th7s.
Why? Because you through off the matching and lowered your overall weight by throwing in the th4s causing a wider spread.

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No, the spread has nothing to do with matchmaking. You can also have all 20 TH8's and match up against 10 TH 9's and 10 TH3's.

Minimizing your spread does not make it more likely that your opponent will have a minimized spread. You will be matched against a clan with similar weight, regardless of how it is spread out.

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Originally Posted by Milo123

No, the spread has nothing to do with matchmaking. You can also have all 20 TH8's and match up against 10 TH 9's and 10 TH3's.

Minimizing your spread does not make it more likely that your opponent will have a minimized spread. You will be matched against a clan with similar weight, regardless of how it is spread out.

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Yes it does

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Originally Posted by BLM

Yes it does

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Well, can't argue with that logic. You go ahead and keep telling yourself that.

In the meantime, I will continue to bring TH3's as spot fillers in my TH9-10 wars to counter the other clans that do, and to gain an advantage against those that don't. The biggest mismatches I have seen are when our lowest are TH8's and they have several TH3's with a big advantage up top.