What is supercell doing to Nerf .5 exploiters?

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

If this is the case why u need advantages then lol. Please. You match a good clan, and this is only way you can compete. People that dont have knowlege of mechanics of weighting probably wont be all that great in war...

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if you match a good clan with a lot of .5 bases youll probably lose

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Originally Posted by NotTheRealPaul

Like I said, the average player has no knowledge of these. We've faced defenceless in war, and my clanmates reaction was ♥♥♥ IS THAT?!?!? HOW?!? WHAT A NOOOOB.

Granted, it was an incomplete defenseless but he had no idea why anyone would do it.

Also, the average player wouldn't have the time to create second or third engineered accounts. I rarely see anyone with 2 accounts, let alone a normal and engineered.

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Yea one guy means the whole clash universe is ignorant

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

If this is the case why u need advantages then lol. Please. You match a good clan, and this is only way you can compete. People that dont have knowlege of mechanics of weighting probably wont be all that great in war...

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We have 2 baby th8.5s with ♥♥♥♥ offense. Those are main accounts, just making the transition. Often times we match against clans with 1-2 full th9s more than us.

For example our current war, they have 7 xbows to our 0. We have two 8.5s at the top, they have 6 th9s, half of them with xbows, and nearly all with extra traps. It's a 10v10 war as well...they have double the th9s than we do (one of ours just upgraded so technically we have 3). And before anyone asks, the bottom 4 are pretty evenly matched as well. I have no idea how we got this match...no friggin idea.

If you look at our th9s, most of us are doing the opposite of war friendly engineering, yet we manage to win a decent amount.

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

if you match a good clan with a lot of .5 bases youll probably lose

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Im done arguing my points. Its obvious you guys are the very ones exploiting. Be careful what u wish for. My clan would mop the floor with most you guys if we all went the rushed offense route, oh excuse me .5

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

Yea one guy means the whole clash universe is ignorant

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Not one...my entire clan, and just about anyone on global. The last time I saw a .5 base was ages ago...

The average clasher simply doesn't do this...and doesn't care enough. The majority of th9s drop xbows before 10/5 heroes...Before you say where are your numbers, this is just a guess based on my observation.

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Originally Posted by Derpologist

Of course they will upgrade offence as well. Are you suggesting someone who upgrades defences first waits until their upgrades are finished before they upgrade offence? Of course not, that would be foolish.

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I am suggesting that people with low def and high troops will face the same people in the opponent team.
Every1 can play the style he wants. Engeneered, .5s, maxed... what ever. But stop mixing one with another. Its not a problem of style, but a problem of matchmaking.
If you start a 20vs20 war and you have 5 TH10 without inferno but with maxed camps, valks, spellfactory and another 5 th9 without xbows but with max dragons or whatever then your opponent should have the same amount..as simple as that. If you have to wait 4 or 5 hours to find a clan thats using the same cheap strategy or weird th combination you should maybe think two times if this makes sense or if you maybe just play fair like 90% of the ppl do and upgrade everything at the same time like its supposed to be.

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

Im shocked at how many are so pro .5/engineered. Two things i want to throw in the ring is: 95% of these .5s/ engineered are bullying lower ths.

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Where did you get this from, especially the 95% figure?

I am, literally, LOL at this. Our 0.5 up attack, they don't bully, ever, unless they absolutely have to, which, in this situation, would be overwhelmingly dictated by the MM.

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

A 9.5 is likely to hit a 9, a relatively easy 3 with little or no skill at all. Sure a 9 can three a 9.5 in return, but much more SKILL is involved(weaker troops, less troops, less spells)The theory of going .5 when a new th, i cannot argue. This is a smart way to upgrade. The problem with this, again many are taking advantage, just going up to next th for extra troops and spells, which currently weigh next to nothing. I think just add a little more weight to troop capacity, spell capacity, and certain "war troops" would help.

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Our experience is that this is far, far less dictated by some 0.5 THs included in the war and far more dictated by the inclusion of some low TH at the bottom of the war map, like a TH5 or something. We are seeing that much more than defenseless bases...

For our, say, TH8.5s, they are drawing TH9s at an extremely high rate, like in excess of 90%. And of the 10% that they aren't, a portion of those are because enemy clans load up on turd TH, like TH3-6, which are seemingly included solely to lower war weight.

And it works many times too. We just had to go through it...

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Originally Posted by Redviper42

An all .5/engineered clash meta would would be 3 star fest, and frankly not challenging and boring. Long term for the games sake, something needs to be adjusted.

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Any smart clan that is using the .5 strategy can't have all of the TH doing it, otherwise you're exactly right, it's a 3* fest, which makes no sense. Last I left off, and I still agree with it, is that no more than 50% of the clan should be doing the 0.5 strategy, the other 50% should be a PITA to 3*. It appears you are doing it/interpreting it totally wrong

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Originally Posted by MarcelLohfink

I am suggesting that people with low def and high troops will face the same people in the opponent team.
Every1 can play the style he wants. Engeneered, .5s, maxed... what ever. But stop mixing one with another. Its not a problem of style, but a problem of matchmaking.
If you start a 20vs20 war and you have 5 TH10 without inferno but with maxed camps, valks, spellfactory and another 5 th9 without xbows but with max dragons or whatever then your opponent should have the same amount..as simple as that. And if you have to wait 4 or 5hours to find some clan that uses the same cheap strategy or weird th combination that you should maybe think 2 times if this makes sense or if you maybe just play fair like 90% of the ppl do and upgrade everything at the same time like its supposed to be.

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No one is waiting that long, get over ya self

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Originally Posted by MarcelLohfink

I am suggesting that people with low def and high troops will face the same people in the opponent team.
Every1 can play the style he wants. Engeneered, .5s, maxed... what ever. But stop mixing one with another. Its not a problem of style, but a problem of matchmaking.
If you start a 20vs20 war and you have 5 TH10 without inferno but with maxed camps, valks, spellfactory and another 5 th9 without xbows but with max dragons or whatever then your opponent should have the same amount..as simple as that. And if you have to wait 4 or 5hours to find some clan that uses the same cheap strategy or weird th combination that you should maybe think 2 times if this makes sense or if you maybe just play fair like 90% of the ppl do and upgrade everything at the same time like its supposed to be.

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Spot on. Not EVERY .5 is exploiting. But its a growing number who are. These guys like playing sports against first graders too. Makes them feel big and bad

personally I don't put .5 in the same basket as lopsided or defenceless bases. .5s arrive at their new th maxed and intend to finish that th maxed. All they are doing is building their offence first. Because they are maxed from the previous th that means more often then not they will attract other new ths, which is y many people same the benefit can be slight. The only difference being they will have stronger offence than their counterpart because they've priotized that first. It's not the same as lurking at the bottom of the map with a bunch of th7s hoping to get the advantage with more high powered attacks