Why does no one focus on the pros of engineering?

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Originally Posted by d3thfr0m4b0v3

Precisely.

Engineering is a thing. It works.
You insist that you don't engineer.
You also show up fighting the pro engi case in every single remotely eng related thread.

So, I ask again, what's in it for you?

Obvious narcissism aside, I reckon you're one of those "just want to watch the world burn" guys.

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there are anti engineers who say they dont face engineers... yet they show up in every engineer thread as an anti engineer.

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

there are anti engineers who say they dont face engineers... yet they show up in every engineer thread as an anti engineer.

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https://youtu.be/yLSeLdANXpc Good example of mismatch caused by engineering. Best case scenario, they lose by 2.

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Originally Posted by TheWarDictator

https://youtu.be/yLSeLdANXpc Good example of mismatch caused by engineering. Best case scenario, they lose by 2.

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and that is the exception rather than the norm

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

and that is the exception rather than the norm

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That's what we're talking about and what needs to be fixed. I don't care how good you think your clan is; you aren't winning that war.

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Originally Posted by TheWarDictator

That's what we're talking about and what needs to be fixed. I don't care how good you think your clan is; you aren't winning that war.

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if the top was equal, then the match would be reasonable in fair.

and it rarely happens. you expect good matches every war? there are terrible ones, good ones, and great ones. fortunately, the terrible ones are the very very rare

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

if the top was equal, then the match would be reasonable in fair.

and it rarely happens. you expect good matches every war? there are terrible ones, good ones, and great ones. fortunately, the terrible ones are the very very rare

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I expect near even ones every war. Why else are we talking about this. Nobody cares about a minor mismatch here or there. I'm concerned for these kind of mismatches. They are the ones that sap the moral from a clan. It's the reason why engineering needs to be addressed.

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

if the top was equal, then the match would be reasonable in fair.

and it rarely happens. you expect good matches every war? there are terrible ones, good ones, and great ones. fortunately, the terrible ones are the very very rare

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And fortunately it will addressed at some point.

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Originally Posted by d3thfr0m4b0v3

Precisely.

Engineering is a thing. It works.
You insist that you don't engineer.
You also show up fighting the pro engi case in every single remotely eng related thread.

So, I ask again, what's in it for you?

Obvious narcissism aside, I reckon you're one of those "just want to watch the world burn" guys.

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Aside from rare mismatches that can often occur in any given war, whether maxxer, engineers (or anything in between), I have not seen consistent mismatches involving engineer clans. The vast majority of complains are from misinformed clashers who don't know how to assess a match up. Since I find the MM works very well now - in fact, the best ever - I will fight those complainers wanting changes to a good system. I am not against minor tweaks to make the MM, but most of what the maxxers are proposing are unreasonable solutions that will create even more mismatches and will only benefit themselves.

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

there are anti engineers who say they dont face engineers... yet they show up in every engineer thread as an anti engineer.

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Yeah, not only that, some of these maxxers even engineer their own clan and then come here and complain about engineer clans...

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Originally Posted by TheWarDictator

Increasing their win rate by 20% is a big jump.

I have a clan that is on a 33 win streak. Current 10 person war contains 1 townhall 10, 2 townhall 9.5s, 1 townhall 9, 3 townhall 8.5s, 2 townhall 8s, and a defenseless townhall 6. All townhall 9s and 10s have lvl 20 heroes and maxed troops. Opponent clan had 1 townhall 10, 3 townhall 9s, 1 townhall 8.5, 3 townhall 8s and 2 townhall 7s. Their townhall 9s had mid teen heroes. Their townhall 10 had 40/40s. The only way that they could win was if their townhall 9s all got 6 stars. They didn't and will lose. We, on the other hand easily 3 starred all of the townhall 9s and below. That left us with 4 chances to 2 star the maxed townhall 10. They had 1 shot per base. We had a pretty sizable advantage and we aren't heavily engineered.

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Sure, that 20% jump in wins % is big, and is likely resulted from engineering some bases. However, the argument is to point the hypocrisy of that poster who complains about engineer clans yet he has one himself.

Your example is not a mismatch that can't be overcome. In fact, it is not that bad considering you war 10v10, where mismatches can be more frequent.

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

there isnt a mismatch but the opponent has engineered bases which according to anti engineers is unfair and mismatch and cheating , etc.

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Yup, we have faced so many engineered enemies, and the vast majority of the matches are fair. The one that I found as our biggest mismatch in the last couples months are deemed not to be mismatch by many mismatch complainers..so figure that out.

see my thread:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...perspective%21