A response to Ash's video about Winterfell Gods

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August 11th, 2016
SpearGobs

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

Not at all. That lets you have a fair advantage in war. It doesn't cause huge mismatches because of how it abuses the system.

Why is it unfair? SC allows it. Unlike modding.
August 11th, 2016
BrianTheBarbarian

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Originally Posted by SpearGobs

Why is it unfair? SC allows it. Unlike modding.

How is it not unfair? Once again, look at the thread, and the video. This clan consistently gets matches against th10s that their th11s can EASILY dip down and 3 star. If that's not unfair, I'm not sure anything is.
August 11th, 2016
Vikingchief

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

Modding is fundamentally different in how it works, but it has the same goal as engineering:

It lets you have an unfair advantage in war.

You did it again, just asserted that the advantage is unfair, the entire argument is about whether the advanatge is unfair or fair and deserved, how can you not get that?

the goal of good clan management is to get an advanatge in war, so encouraging people to increase skill level is like modding then?
August 11th, 2016
orangemojo

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

Not at all. That lets you have a fair advantage in war. It doesn't cause huge mismatches because of how it abuses the system.

lol yes keep twisting your own definitons of fair to fit your ideals. with YOUR logic, engineering and modding are on the same par with what i said because they are all designed to give an edge over your opponent dont deny it.
August 11th, 2016
BrianTheBarbarian

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

You did it again, just asserted that the advantage is unfair, the entire argument is about whether the advanatge is unfair or fair and deserved, how can you not get that?

the goal of good clan management is to get an advanatge in war, so encouraging people to increase skill level is like modding then?

The goal of a good clan is not to get unfair advantages in war by abusing the system. The goal is to reach a group that contains enough individual skill and cooperation that they can win against fair matches.

How is this thread not an example of unfairness? There's no argument you can make that th11s getting matches with th10s is fair. It's entirely a huge advantage that is only there because of exploiting the system.
August 11th, 2016
Vikingchief

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

How is it not unfair? Once again, look at the thread, and the video. This clan consistently gets matches against th10s that their th11s can EASILY dip down and 3 star. If that's not unfair, I'm not sure anything is.

Again your assuming they should not get an advantage, if they were more strategic, took time to understand the game, put in the effort to follow a clan wise upgrade path based on strategic game metrics, surely it would be unfair for them not to have some advanatge?
August 11th, 2016
BrianTheBarbarian

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

lol yes keep twisting your own definitons of fair to fit your ideals. with YOUR logic, engineering and modding are on the same par with what i said because they are all designed to give an edge over your opponent dont deny it.

You still don't get it, I'll have to explain again:

Modding and engineering give you unfair matches, where the opponent has absolutely no chance.

Other methods of offense/defense upgrading will match with opponents that have the same chance as you do to win.

Your logic doesn't make any sense.
August 11th, 2016
Vikingchief

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

The goal of a good clan is not to get unfair advantages in war by abusing the system. The goal is to reach a group that contains enough individual skill and cooperation that they can win against fair matches.

How is this thread not an example of unfairness? There's no argument you can make that th11s getting matches with th10s is fair. It's entirely a huge advantage that is only there because of exploiting the system.

You keep asserting again that the advantage us unfair, if it took a lot of work and sound strategic planning and flawless implementation then a war advanatge is fair. At least their are arguments both ways, meaning you cant just assert its unfair.
August 11th, 2016
BrianTheBarbarian

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Originally Posted by Vikingchief

Again your assuming they should not get an advantage, if they were more strategic, took time to understand the game, put in the effort to follow a clan wise upgrade path based on strategic game metrics, surely it would be unfair for them not to have some advanatge?

Any advantage should never be enough to cause a 100 war win streak because the matches you get have absolutely zero chance of winning.

Advantages that cause that big of a problem need to be addressed.
August 11th, 2016
Vikingchief

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

Any advantage should never be enough to cause a 100 war win streak because the matches you get have absolutely zero chance of winning.

Advantages that cause that big of a problem need to be addressed.

Dorsans maxer clan is on a streak of around 30 wins, how do we adress maxers then?

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