A response to Ash's video about Winterfell Gods

Engineering is a bad word in this forum. Anytime someone wants attention, create a post about engineering and get 50 pages of responses.

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Originally Posted by sg333

Engineering is a bad word in this forum. Anytime someone wants attention, create a post about engineering and get 50 pages of responses.

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Sadly.

Are people going to complain about barching because it's the fastest way to max out (a.k.a. win wars) and that's unfair because everyone​ can do it too?

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Originally Posted by andrgin

You are supposed to reach max defenses, max heroes and max walls at the same time. If your heroes are lvl10 and your walls are lvl9 you are supposed to only have th8 level defenses with xbows lvl1, if you have lvl20 heroes and part of the walls lvl10, you can maybe upgrade your teslas and ads.

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Heroes and lab take months upon months. Max def takes maybe 3 weeks.

Is this based on you "should" have them? And no one need all lavas for all max defense, nor do they need 30/30.

I saw this argument a lot:

"It takes effort, effort should be rewarded."

Why should you reward exploiting? I could see defenseless bases being fine, if they weren't so exploitable. That's essentially what engineered bases are. You're taking something that messes up the matchmaking and abusing it to gain war wins.

And this one:

"It's strategy."

That didn't work for TH sniping, and it didn't work for zapping storages. SC obviously doesn't want the game to be played this way, or they wouldn't have promoted building up your base to defend against people.

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Originally Posted by SpearGobs

Sadly.

Are people going to complain about barching because it's the fastest way to max out (a.k.a. win wars) and that's unfair because everyone​ can do it too?

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You are not maxing out on the expense of others. I don't care if you are going to take my loot with barch or with the most expensive army there is. In fact if you keep your army costs low, you're helping the game economy on the long run. So no, abusing a bug in the matchmaker or farming efficiently are not the same thing.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

You are not maxing out on the expense of others. I don't care if you are going to take my loot with barch or with the most expensive army there is. In fact if you keep your army costs low, you're helping the game economy on the long run. So no, abusing a bug in the matchmaker or farming efficiently are not the same thing.

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It's not a bug. They probably should alter the weight of defenseless but that's another point.

Engineered bases are made with the purpose to win wars. Barching is with the purpose to max out.

As long as everyone can do it, it's fair.

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Originally Posted by dorsan

You are not maxing out on the expense of others. I don't care if you are going to take my loot with barch or with the most expensive army there is. In fact if you keep your army costs low, you're helping the game economy on the long run. So no, abusing a bug in the matchmaker or farming efficiently are not the same thing.

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logical fallicy, circular reasoning.

you say its abusing a bug in the matchmaker, no on knows if this is true except supercell, it may be smart strategy, it may be an exploit, your asserting its a abusing a bug in the matchmaker, when that is what the argument is about.

If you know its a bug in the matchmaker please enligheten us, supercell have said clash is a strategy game and we have freedom to grow as we wish.

Ur matchup on the video had 2 th10s against u and u guys had like 5 th11s ur 1 had maxxed heroes and GW with maxxed troops then u had some th10s how is 5 th11s vs 2 th10s fair . You know what ur doing don't try and say ur not an engineered clan that's exactly what u are and stop trying to pass the buck on ur bad behavior well people are modding ok so cause they cheat the system ur going to as well u guys suck.

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Originally Posted by SpearGobs

It's not a bug. They probably should alter the weight of defenseless but that's another point.

Engineered bases are made with the purpose to win wars. Barching is with the purpose to max out.

As long as everyone can do it, it's fair.

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I guess modding is fair then since everyone has the capability to do that.

It doesn't make it fair, it just makes it widespread, and eventually, the problem gets out of hand before SC does anything.

Defenseless bases would be fine if they didn't cause huge mismatches. That's the issue.

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Originally Posted by BrianTheBarbarian

I guess modding is fair then since everyone has the capability to do that.

It doesn't make it fair, it just makes it widespread, and eventually, the problem gets out of hand before SC does anything.

Defenseless bases would be fine if they didn't cause huge mismatches. That's the issue.

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Modding is unfair because its explicitly again the rules, like taking a scooter instead of running a marathon.