Has anyone heard about this barn-space-making "update"???

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

Maybe spending diamonds to remove the completed quota of an expansion material from our barns is not so philosophically different.

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I think it is completely philosophically different. But you already stated the reasons: one gives you a temporary benefit, the other is permanent.

I think this new feature has more in common with spending diamonds to speed up production or ripening of fruit. It's a feature for those whose impatience is greater than their wallet. And that's fine: they keep the servers running for me.

What I find bizarre about this feature is that not only was it not well announced, but it's almost completely undiscoverable: you won't know where to look for it. And those who do by EMs that way probably wont even notice what happened to the barn space.

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Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay

Reading this thread, my first reaction was: "no, I don't think I'll be using this."

But then I realized that - just this morning - I'd contemplated using diamonds to open up more slots in my smelter to deposit some ore and create some space in my barn. Maybe spending diamonds to remove the completed quota of an expansion material from our barns is not so philosophically different.

The only considerations holding me back are:

1/ I've expanded my barn/silo without trading and without spending diamonds on expansion. At this point, it brings me a little bit of game-pride that I've been able to accomplish that. :smirk: But maybe that "achievement :p" isn't really worth holding on to, and I could adjust.

2/ Opening up extra production slots with diamonds makes those extra slots available for perpetuity. Spending diamonds for expansions would be a one-time use each time.

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Your point #2 in combination with mining with "barn full" will achieve almost the same amount of free space in your barn. And as you point out you can do this over and over again with only having had to spend the diamonds once. Obviously it will depend on how many smelters / slots you have on each. I usually mine with 50-60 spaces open in my barn. Once I reach the alert you have to pick up before you can continue, I just fill up all the smelters. Between the ore and the used tools I repeatedly end up with 100 spaces in the barn and a bunch of ore in "free storage" in front of the mine.

First of all, thank you MiniGardener for the PSA by alerting us to this new feature. Thank you taoyingying for demonstrating it and posting screen shots. Now I have a better understanding. :)

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Originally Posted by XYZZY

...I think this new feature has more in common with spending diamonds to speed up production or ripening of fruit. It's a feature for those whose impatience is greater than their wallet. And that's fine: they keep the servers running for me.

What I find bizarre about this feature is that not only was it not well announced, but it's almost completely undiscoverable: you won't know where to look for it. And those who do by EMs that way probably wont even notice what happened to the barn space.

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The new feature is a variation of an idea which was requested by the community but was listed in the ruled out thread started by former Mod Cricks3. I'm speculating this new feature wasn't highlighted by Team Hay Day because they don't want us to know that they have created a new revenue stream. Since there's no way to spin the new feature in a positive light, it was introduced without any fanfare with the recent update.

Kudos to Team Hay Day and your entrepreneurial spirit. We would've missed it were it not for the eagle eyes of MiniGardener.

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Originally Posted by LynnK2015

The new feature is a variation of an idea which was requested by the community but was listed in the ruled out thread started by former Mod Cricks3. I'm speculating this new feature wasn't highlighted by Team Hay Day because they don't want us to know that they have created a new revenue stream. Since there's no way to spin the new feature in a positive light, it was introduced without any fanfare with the recent update.

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The NH trading box turns out to be a donation box. The apparent tool shed turns out to be this. We ordered 2 eggs sunny side up and we got 3 eggs scrambled. Kudos Team Hay Day.

Not disclosing this feature isn't exactly the best way to get players to contribute to the revenue stream. Tomville initially thought it was a glitch after stumbling on it. Several others tried it only after reading about it. No one knew about it. Logically, full disclosure would net them a lot more. A question for Nick when he returns.

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Originally Posted by Haystacker

The NH trading box turns out to be a donation box. The apparent tool shed turns out to be this. We ordered 2 eggs sunny side up and we got 3 eggs scrambled. Kudos Team Hay Day...

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ROTFLMAO! But were the scrambled eggs sufficiently fluffy for you? :)

There's something about the Supercell culture which thinks they are giving us what we want but the end product isn't what we envisioned originally, IMO.

Personally I am going with the philosophy that this "feature" wasn't planned at all despite what "Support" said. How many times has "Support" been totally clueless about anything to do with the game. And y'all think that mysteriously this time "Support" knew about this hidden feature to tell Tomville about it? More likely they had no explanation so went with the easy answer "we brought it in with the latest update". Far better from a PR point of view than to have to tell players they busted something else in the update, no?

There is a big positive to this, it would stop some particular forms of cheating and exploitation, which is something I am sure we would all like to see. That to me is more important than my amusement at my new "no barn space" home for those screws.

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Originally Posted by rbcrewser

Personally I am going with the philosophy that this "feature" wasn't planned at all despite what "Support" said. How many times has "Support" been totally clueless about anything to do with the game. And y'all think that mysteriously this time "Support" knew about this hidden feature to tell Tomville about it? More likely they had no explanation so went with the easy answer "we brought it in with the latest update". Far better from a PR point of view than to have to tell players they busted something else in the update, no?

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U might be right...that's one quick thinking support specialist if that's true. A feature this important as to be compared to the long requested tool shed would surely be flaunted by SC as a major achievement, not hidden away in secrecy. How would people even know to make good use of it if it's not even revealed? Doesn't make much sense.

Another theory: Nick simply forgot about including it in the sneak peeks. Entirely possible.

Side note: why even bother with support? Seems like it's horror story after horror story for some of u. No answer from them ever seem to be satisfactory.

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Originally Posted by Tomville

There is a big positive to this, it would stop some particular forms of cheating and exploitation, which is something I am sure we would all like to see. That to me is more important than my amusement at my new "no barn space" home for those screws.

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While indeed it could be a method to prevent certain exploits/cheating, that goal would still be accomplished even with telling us all about it. Plus telling us would have the added bonus of spurring more spending.

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Originally Posted by XYZZY

I think it is completely philosophically different. But you already stated the reasons: one gives you a temporary benefit, the other is permanent.

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Yes, I suppose it is a matter of reference and scale. A crow is totally different from a cow. Eating crow and eating cow are pretty different. :smirk: But a crow and a cow are not as different in degree from each other as they both are from an induction oven.

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Originally Posted by rbcrewser

Your point #2 in combination with mining with "barn full" will achieve almost the same amount of free space in your barn. And as you point out you can do this over and over again with only having had to spend the diamonds once. Obviously it will depend on how many smelters / slots you have on each. I usually mine with 50-60 spaces open in my barn. Once I reach the alert you have to pick up before you can continue, I just fill up all the smelters. Between the ore and the used tools I repeatedly end up with 100 spaces in the barn and a bunch of ore in "free storage" in front of the mine.

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It would cost me 15 diamonds to open up an additional mining slot to hold 3 ore for several hours. It would free up 3 spots in my barn.

Right now, most of the time, I don't use all my available mining slots. So that extra fifth slot would probably be used sporadically - when I do a derby mining task... maybe once a week. :confused:

If I waited until I had 79/80 nails and paid 8 diamonds to top off that last silo EM, that would free up 80 barn spots. Only a one-time use, but 80 free spots might make still make a big impact for me. Especially if I'm "hoarding" stuff temporarily as prep for a few boat tasks, and I can't really sell/use up many of my wares.

I still don't know if I'll use this feature. I guess when I'm feeling crushed by the unbearable weight of fully-stocked barn, I'll see what I'll do.

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Originally Posted by rbcrewser

Personally I am going with the philosophy that this "feature" wasn't planned at all despite what "Support" said. How many times has "Support" been totally clueless about anything to do with the game. And y'all think that mysteriously this time "Support" knew about this hidden feature to tell Tomville about it? More likely they had no explanation so went with the easy answer "we brought it in with the latest update". Far better from a PR point of view than to have to tell players they busted something else in the update, no?

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:eek: That would be nuts if this were an unintentional feature... a glitch even.

That would mean, one random day, they might shut down the servers for "maintenance" to "fix" this glitch. Maybe everyone would get 2 or 3 diamonds for the inconvenience. But what if everyone who used this feature would "lose" all their saved EMs? And then - like a lost/glitched derby task - all Support could do is say that such things never happen and that it's all the users' fault and have a hayppy day. :(