Clans manipulating the war system

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Originally Posted by Sqwook

Fair? Who knows...you havent given us enough information but, with the minimal information you provided, a few conclusions can be made. Firstly, your almost maxed TH 9 had two attacks right? Was he able to three star any opponents that were "almost maxed" TH 9's? If the answer was "yes" you werent worse off right? If the answer was "no", then he wasnt good enough to help your clan win, right? So in that case less attacking skill meant you deserved to lose. Simple logic would say so.

Secondly, you made the comparison between their number 39 base with your number 6 base so I am going to play "devil's advocate" and assume that the war mm system matches single base pairs (which it does not). In your example, if the two bases mentioned were matched (without considering the rest of the match information seeing you have chosen bits of info to support your case), surely your almost maxed TH 9 was able to 3 star his "TH 7 weighted" base right? So without considering their second attacks, it was a three star draw.

The biggest problem I have with the war mm system complaint threads is that the complainers never seem to come up with a better way to imorove the war mm system.

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See that shows your logic of war strategy is very dumb. Let's see the first point you made. #39 gets 3 star on max th9. Majority of time any th9 has a very very hard chance to 3 star a max th9 unless heroes are very high. So now #6 is cleaned that more than likely would have taken a th10-11 at the 1-4 spot to 3. Now their #6 has an attack left for an easier th9 because #39 was able to attack. Saying its a squash attack a th9 attacking a th7 war weight is very ignorant so I'm not going to even touch that. Listen we win most wars, we are clan lvl 12. If you can't see a war advantage by ppl doing this well you aren't a leader or very good at war. Anytime your matched equally at say 1-20 spot then both clans have 40 attacks that are equal playing field on attacks. Well your throw in 5-10 engineer bases and those bases are able to reach 20 spots up and 3 star because they are th10-11 with extra troops, spells and higher troop level. then that allows your th9s to attack easier bases with a much more percentage to 3. It's amazing you can't see the advantage this. You must not run a clan or wars.

if your a L12 clan and as good as you say, you should have no problem winning

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

if your a L12 clan and as good as you say, you should have no problem winning

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Well level 12 clan does not mean anything. And even his clan is winning, it does not mean he knows anything about the MM. See ClashHead...a pretty good clan that was winning, but oh just so clueless about the MM. CH wins war due to some other reasons, but naming and shaming not allowed here.

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Originally Posted by dread11

See that shows your logic of war strategy is very dumb. Let's see the first point you made. #39 gets 3 star on max th9. Majority of time any th9 has a very very hard chance to 3 star a max th9 unless heroes are very high. So now #6 is cleaned that more than likely would have taken a th10-11 at the 1-4 spot to 3. Now their #6 has an attack left for an easier th9 because #39 was able to attack. Saying its a squash attack a th9 attacking a th7 war weight is very ignorant so I'm not going to even touch that. Listen we win most wars, we are clan lvl 12. If you can't see a war advantage by ppl doing this well you aren't a leader or very good at war. Anytime your matched equally at say 1-20 spot then both clans have 40 attacks that are equal playing field on attacks. Well your throw in 5-10 engineer bases and those bases are able to reach 20 spots up and 3 star because they are th10-11 with extra troops, spells and higher troop level. then that allows your th9s to attack easier bases with a much more percentage to 3. It's amazing you can't see the advantage this. You must not run a clan or wars.

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If you need to have your 10s or 11s clear max 9s most of the time then you have no standing to critique others' leadership or war abilities.

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Originally Posted by Aspex

If you need to have your 10s or 11s clear max 9s most of the time then you have no standing to critique others' leadership or war abilities.

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Haha if majority of your higher level bases are th9 then 3 starring the max th9s is the goal since the war is based on max stars. Most of your th11-10 do not get 3 starred if your not facing 3 max heroes. If rushed th10-11 that sit at th5-8 war weight 3 stars the harder th9 bases then your better th9 bases can attack lower th9 bases greater chance to 3 star. Your response was idiotic the entire conversation was rushed th10-11 going up 25+ spots and 3 starring bases. Your more advanced th10-11 always hit th10-11 bases. Usually your rushed engineer bases are not advance bases they only rush max valks, heroes. Nice try though.

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Originally Posted by TangoFever

Well level 12 clan does not mean anything. And even his clan is winning, it does not mean he knows anything about the MM. See ClashHead...a pretty good clan that was winning, but oh just so clueless about the MM. CH wins war due to some other reasons, but naming and shaming not allowed here.

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Well if you can't see advantage is rushing townhalls to weigh way less than bases you can 3 star I don't know what to tell you. Any person who wars a lot knows the advantage of rush engineer bases in war. Being in a clan lvl 12 does matter since I've been in there since it started. It means I have a lot of experience in war and MM. Way more than you

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Originally Posted by orangemojo

if your a L12 clan and as good as you say, you should have no problem winning

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Never said we had a problem winning. We get a ton of unfair match ups when you look at attack ability of each clan. Just taking th9+ attacks most clans are getting way more attacks at top part of map (the part you win 98%) of the wars. We have a lot of veteran players who are great attackers that out weigh the number of more attacks the opponenst get on your base. Don't see what is so hard to see if clan A has 25 attacks that are 3 star potential on top of map vs 15 attacks which are potential 3 stars of map clsn A has advantage. Not hard to see advantage lol

Listen I could care less about ppl engineer bases we outmatch most of with skill attacks but if you can truly sit here and say it's not a war advantage when a th5-7 war weight can 3 star th9 war weight then you really have no idea how wars work. Anything up to th8 is very easily 3 starred by same level bases. When you get up to th9+ your 3 star chances start going down when facing the same townhall level base. Majority of wars are won th9+. So when you get a significant amount more of attacks from your th9-11 bases its a huge war advantage. I really can't believe ppl would like to,pretend it's not haha. Th10 extra spell, higher troop level and numbers gives a major advantage when attacking th9s So basically you have a junk player sitting at th10 (war weight th7) just blindly 3 starring bases he had no chance if he was th9

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Originally Posted by dread11

It means I have a lot of experience in war and MM. Way more than you

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Chuckled a bit

In all seriousness all your posts point to you believing place in war roster equals matchmaking weight. Evaluate your knowledge

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Originally Posted by VeeBirds

Chuckled a bit

In all seriousness all your posts point to you believing place in war roster equals matchmaking weight. Evaluate your knowledge

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Not at all it's over all war weight I know that. Rush th10-11 who can 3 star th9 bases sitting at war weight 7 still counts war weight 7 in the overall weight. What's your point?