Troops/ Spell Balencing

Alright here are some ideas to help bring back some troops and spells that are currently weak compared to other troops and spells.

Lava Hound: Now does 4x damage to air defenses
Reasoning: No one uses air raids anymore and bringing lv4 hounds didn't help much. This might sound like a huge increase but since the hound does only about 15 damage a second it's really not

Witches: Now does an extra 15 damage per second on each level and gets stronger skeleton on each level.
Lv1 Witches: Skeletons 25 health 20 attack
Lv2 Witches: Skeletons 35 health 25 attack
Lv3 Witches Skeletons 50 health 30 attack
Reasoning: The Witches got seriously nerfed it that 'Trap Skeleton change' so this will help bring it back

Valkyries: Now have a 10% health decrease on each level (f.e lv1 Valkyries will now have 630 health from 700)
Reasoning: This troop is currently overused and is really powerful, this would help Balencing it.

Archers: Now have a 20% increase of health at lv7 and lv6 (f.e will now have 55 health from 48 at lv7 and 50 health from 44 at level 6)
Reasoning: Really fragile compared to the barbarian whom has over 115 health and they both have the same troop size

Clone Spell: Spell size reduced to 3 and each level now can clone 5 more troops and the cloning lasts 5 seconds longer
Reasoning: I don't need any

Skeleton Spell: Now gives out twice as many skeletons as before on each level as well as each level gains stronger skeletons (like the witches)
Reasoning: This spell is far to weak compared to the quake and poison spell (personally I think adding in this spell into the game was a bad idea)

Hog Rider: At lv6 the hog rider gains about another 15% health increase
Reasoning: Still extremely underused at th10 and even more so at th11 so this would help a bit

Dragon: At lv5 now recieves an extra 300 health and 5 damage when going to lv5 so it will have 3,000 health in total. At lv4 The dragon will have 200 more health than before. (2700 health)

Reasoning: Like the lava hound air raids are really underused and this would help bring them back at th10 and th11.

Minions: At lv5-7 the minions will receive 6 extra health points on those levels. (F.e lv6 minions will have 90 health instead of 84) As well as between lv4-7 the minions have an extra 3+ base attack adding to a total of 12+ attack by lv7 (F.e Lv6 minions will have 63 attack from originally 54 attack)
Reasoning: Like other air troops the minions needed a boost and this will allow it to survive 2 hits from a wizard tower at later levels

Wall Breakers: Now have a 30% health increase at lv5-6 (which sounds like a lot but it isn't). (F.e a lv6 wall breaker would have 70 health from 54)
Reasoning: Wall Breakers get seriously overshadowed at later levels from both the jump spell and quake, also getting one shoted from a mortar doesn't help either. So this change would help improve the wall breaker

Alright guys can you give me some more ideas on which troops should be changed? Feedback is always welcome

I agree with everything you say, this could really help.

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Originally Posted by WilliamBuendia

Alright here are some ideas to help bring back some troops and spells that are currently weak compared to other troops and spells.

Lava Hound: Now does 4x damage to air defenses
Reasoning: No one uses air raids anymore and being lv4 hounds didn't help much. This might sound like a huge increase but since the hound does only about 15 damage a second it's really not

Witches: Now does an extra 15 damage per second on each level and gets stronger skeleton on each level.
Lv1 Witches: Skeletons 25 health 20 attack
Lv2 Witches: Skeletons 35 health 25 attack
Lv3 Witches Skeletons 50 health 30 attack
Reasoning: The Witches got seriously nerfed it that 'Trap Skeleton change' so this will help bring it back

Valkyries: Now have a 10% health decrease on each level (f.e lv1 Valkyries will now have 630 health from 700)
Reasoning: This troop is currently overused and is really powerful, this would help Balencing it.

Archers: Now have a 20% increase of health at lv7 (f.e will now have 52 health from 46)
Reasoning: Really fragile compared to the barbarian whom has over 115 health and they both have the same troop size

Clone Spell: Spell size reduced to 3 and each level now can clone 5 more troops
Reasoning: I don't need any

Skeleton Spell: Now gives out twice as many skeletons as before on each level
Reasoning: This spell is far to weak compared to the quake and poison spell (personally I think adding in this spell into the game was a bad idea)

Hog Rider: At lv6 the hog rider gains about another 15% health increase
Reasoning: Still extremely underused at th10 and even more so at th11 so this would help a bit

Dragon: At lv5 now recieves an extra 300 health and 5 damage when going to lv5
Reasoning: Like the lava hound air raids are really underused and this would help bring them back at th10 and th11

Alright guys can you give me some more ideas on which troops should be changed? Feedback is always welcome

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Level 4 drags need a slight buff too :P, and minions need some buff, but that's just me, I pretty much agree with all of this, also level 6 archers also need a slight health buff, but those are just a few extras I wanted to put in there.

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Originally Posted by BbaBaba123

Level 4 drags need a slight buff too :P, and minions need some buff, but that's just me, I pretty much agree with all of this, also level 6 archers also need a slight health buff, but those are just a few extras I wanted to put in there.

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Yeah your right lv4 dragons are pretty weak at th9 and need a buff, I'll add that in there

archers lvl 6 need more hp to
minions need a small buff in bot hp and damage
lava hound need a buff in damage and attack ground/air(for defence)

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Originally Posted by Ebast

archers lvl 6 need more hp to
minions need a small buff in bot hp and damage
lava hound need a buff in damage and attack ground/air(for defence)

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Alright Ebast I'll add some of your ideas but I don't think making lava hounds hit ground and air would be a good idea since that would weaken air raids

This would be a big update if they buff and nerf certain troops, I like these, hopefully it's seen and implemented.

Why are minions even in the game ? Nobody uses them !!! They need a major buff so that they come into spotlight and rock the world. I'm thinking like at Lv7 100 HP and 20% more attack than they have now.

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Originally Posted by PokeManiac

Why are minions even in the game ? Nobody uses them !!! They need a major buff so that they come into spotlight and rock the world. I'm thinking like at Lv7 100 HP and 20% more attack than they have now.

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Maybe more like 20-25% more HP and dps.

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Originally Posted by PokeManiac

Why are minions even in the game ? Nobody uses them !!! They need a major buff so that they come into spotlight and rock the world. I'm thinking like at Lv7 100 HP and 20% more attack than they have now.

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Alright I'll add an increase of attack for minions as well

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Originally Posted by PokeManiac

Why are minions even in the game ? Nobody uses them !!! They need a major buff so that they come into spotlight and rock the world. I'm thinking like at Lv7 100 HP and 20% more attack than they have now.

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Who doesnt use minions? Theyre a great clean up troop, funnel troop, and clan hopping troop. You would be stupid to not bring at least a few as clean up.

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Originally Posted by zoelem

Who doesnt use minions? Theyre a great clean up troop, funnel troop, and clan hopping troop. You would be stupid to not bring at least a few as clean up.

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You may use them a lot, doesn't mean that others use them, I use them because they are great at either getting loot, establishing a funnel, or cleaning up, but sometimes their power is slightly too low, and they need only a small buff not a major buff, heck the buff I see is reducing their housing space :P, they could keep the stats as they are, but reducing space would be a huge buff for them

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Originally Posted by BbaBaba123

You may use them a lot, doesn't mean that others use them, I use them because they are great at either getting loot, establishing a funnel, or cleaning up, but sometimes their power is slightly too low, and they need only a small buff not a major buff, heck the buff I see is reducing their housing space :P, they could keep the stats as they are, but reducing space would be a huge buff for them

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Hmmm I think reducing their housing space would be too overpowered but I like the idea of increasing the minions damage a bit so I'll add it

What about increasing the damage of lightning spell for level 6-7 slightly?

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Originally Posted by WilliamBuendia

Alright here are some ideas to help bring back some troops and spells that are currently weak compared to other troops and spells.

Lava Hound: Now does 4x damage to air defenses
Reasoning: No one uses air raids anymore and bringing lv4 hounds didn't help much. This might sound like a huge increase but since the hound does only about 15 damage a second it's really not

Witches: Now does an extra 15 damage per second on each level and gets stronger skeleton on each level.
Lv1 Witches: Skeletons 25 health 20 attack
Lv2 Witches: Skeletons 35 health 25 attack
Lv3 Witches Skeletons 50 health 30 attack
Reasoning: The Witches got seriously nerfed it that 'Trap Skeleton change' so this will help bring it back

Valkyries: Now have a 10% health decrease on each level (f.e lv1 Valkyries will now have 630 health from 700)
Reasoning: This troop is currently overused and is really powerful, this would help Balencing it.

Archers: Now have a 20% increase of health at lv7 and lv6 (f.e will now have 55 health from 48 at lv7 and 50 health from 44 at level 6)
Reasoning: Really fragile compared to the barbarian whom has over 115 health and they both have the same troop size

Clone Spell: Spell size reduced to 3 and each level now can clone 5 more troops
Reasoning: I don't need any

Skeleton Spell: Now gives out twice as many skeletons as before on each level
Reasoning: This spell is far to weak compared to the quake and poison spell (personally I think adding in this spell into the game was a bad idea)

Hog Rider: At lv6 the hog rider gains about another 15% health increase
Reasoning: Still extremely underused at th10 and even more so at th11 so this would help a bit

Dragon: At lv5 now recieves an extra 300 health and 5 damage when going to lv5 so it will have 3,000 health in total. At lv4 The dragon will have 200 more health than before. (2700 health)
Reasoning: Like the lava hound air raids are really underused and this would help bring them back at th10 and th11

Minions: At lv5-7 the minions will receive 6 extra health points on those levels. (F.e lv6 minions will have 90 health instead of 84) As well as between lv4-7 the minions have an extra 3+ base attack adding to a total of 12+ attack by lv7 (F.e Lv6 minions will have 63 attack from originally 54 attack)
Reasoning: Like other air troops the minions needed a boost and this will allow it to survive 2 hits from a wizard tower at later levels

Wall Breakers: Now have a 30% health increase at lv5-6 (which sounds like a lot but it isn't). (F.e a lv6 wall breaker would have 70 health from 54)
Reasoning: Wall Breakers get seriously overshadowed at later levels from both the jump spell and quake, also getting one shoted from a mortar doesn't help either. So this change would help improve the wall breaker

Alright guys can you give me some more ideas on which troops should be changed? Feedback is always welcome

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This would hopefully bring back air attacks and hopefully some other troops that would make attacks more exciting. I agree that dragons die at higher levels but I personally think that dragons are too OP at lower levels like TH8. All dragon attacks rule the attacks at this level so maybe a nerf may be necessary lower down.

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Originally Posted by PokeManiac

Why are minions even in the game ? Nobody uses them !!! They need a major buff so that they come into spotlight and rock the world. I'm thinking like at Lv7 100 HP and 20% more attack than they have now.

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I use minions zi think they are great! I personally think they should have a buff so that try are a tiny bit more useful in air attacks.

I think buffs and nerfs that are needed as well are:
Dragon nerf at lower level like TH8(buff at higher levels still though)
Lightning spell damage increase(maybe so that two lightning spells can destroy a building except from town hall)
Skeleton Spell could have skeletons that die from two hits not one, reduced skeletons so it's not too OP
Skeletons trigger traps(from witches)
Earthquake spell- 3 spells destroy walls.

At lower levels balloons are bad. Possibly a small HP increase for lower levels would be necessary.

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Originally Posted by NinjaOfFire1

I think buffs and nerfs that are needed as well are:
Dragon nerf at lower level like TH8(buff at higher levels still though)
Lightning spell damage increase(maybe so that two lightning spells can destroy a building except from town hall)
Skeleton Spell could have skeletons that die from two hits not one, reduced skeletons so it's not too OP
Skeletons trigger traps(from witches)
Earthquake spell- 3 spells destroy walls.

At lower levels balloons are bad. Possibly a small HP increase for lower levels would be necessary.

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I agree with you on the dragon problem at th7-8 but it should be a small decrease in health so it's not nerfed
Increasing the Lightning spells damage is tricky since with a couple quake spells in the beginning they can almost take out a th9-10 (I'll need some more feedback and ideas on that, like maybe reduced damage to the townhall but increased damage to defenses?)
Earthquake spell is currently used a lot and is really good (especially at th10-11) so it doesn't need a boost in power
I'll add in the boost in health on skeletons in the skeleton spell but not the trigger traps thing since SC directly removed that function a couple of months ago

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Originally Posted by NinjaOfFire1

This would hopefully bring back air attacks and hopefully some other troops that would make attacks more exciting. I agree that dragons die at higher levels but I personally think that dragons are too OP at lower levels like TH8. All dragon attacks rule the attacks at this level so maybe a nerf may be necessary lower down.

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Drag attacks shouldnt be nerfed at all. Being basically the most expensive strategy that works, they should stay the same. It is basically guaranteed that you'll lose elixir with them. So theres a trade off between having power and not having loot. I think its a fair trade off. But it wouldnt be a fair trade off to have some power and then no loot.

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Originally Posted by zoelem

Drag attacks shouldnt be nerfed at all. Being basically the most expensive strategy that works, they should stay the same. It is basically guaranteed that you'll lose elixir with them. So theres a trade off between having power and not having loot. I think its a fair trade off. But it wouldnt be a fair trade off to have some power and then no loot.

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Hm good point about the how expensive dragon raids are compared too other startegies at th7-8 so I'll remove the sight decrease. Tbh I don't really know how great dragon raids are at th7-8 since I'm at th10 where dragon raids are pretty weak.

Just wondering, since ground is over powered right now, and air needs the buff, what other things needs buffs from the top of your heads?