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What am I missing here? The main reason people wanted this kind of in-hood trade was for expansion materials, but they're excluded.
So the only purpose seems to be achievements, right?
So surely I can't be in the only neighborhood where we just all requested and donated 10 wheat to each other in a rotation...
Seems a shame that expansion materials are excluded here. We usually just ask in the chat if it is necessary.
The purpose is, of course, also stuff someone may need for a boat or truck or town order. Or some crops needed for a harvesting task. Or mining tools. Or saws and axes. Or feed. It is a bit of a bummer that expansion materials are excluded, though.
I guess I am lucky I have good enough GC neighbors so that everyone respects and recognizes the 1 wheat in the last crate for those instances and recognizes that when goodies pop up there for 1 coin they might have missed the wheat. The few occasions someone has accidentally grabbed something, it has always been returned.Quote:
Originally Posted by EllunaHellen
This whole "achievement" seems otherwise rather simplistic to obtain with not much planning.
How bout the fact you can only request 3 saws, axes, etc. every 8 hours. I mean seriously?
I know, I generate way more than 3 every 8 hours... I need to be able to give far more away as they are cluttering barn :PQuote:
Originally Posted by FieldsOfGreatness
Truly not understanding what in the hell this new worthless feature was created for, your players ask for a trade system in NH then you create some absurd mockery where you cannot even "donate" EM which is what everyone wanted this for and this is coming from a person like myself who doesn't even need EM tools.
Now for even more facepalm failure, you can can only donate ever 16 hours or something absurd. Great, you saved folks some coins by "donating" instead of just selling items at default to NH members. Cool story hansel. What good is this when you can only donate 7x during the course of a whole week and even then you can only donate 5 items per 1 "amazing" donation period.
You had 1 job for this category and you somehow turned this simple request into some mind numbing ridiculous failed end product.
:standing ovation:
Couldnt agree more... It's like ...here's a neat feature but we will restrict bems and sems items.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottietheDog
Nh of 2. The only time I can see this feature being useful is when I need something for my next boat. I can request it at night before bed, log in the morning when my boat is here and have my items available when she's already in bed. We're on the opposite side of the globe so she sleeps while I play sometimes. That's how my NH have used it so far but that's about as far as it goes.
Expansion items are the throttle for progression. Supercell will NEVER implement a system that allows you to easily get the ones you need when you need them. There has to be something to keep player progression in check, or nobody will spend diamonds. I'm not complaining - I'm not even mad - that's just how this kind of game works. Stop expecting Supercell to make Expansion items readily available, it's not going to happen.
I think it's presumptive to say that Expansion Items are "the main reason" for this feature. There were many times I was trying to send items or crops to a fellow Neighbor and they got picked up by some random passer-by. That is what this is intended to correct.
The trading system has to be restricted, or materials will flow back and forth too freely.
At first I really liked this feature, but now it seems less useful. For us, the money spent on the items wasn't the issue, but rather having a protected trading box. I don't mind paying for the products, but don't want someone else to grab them. I also really don't like the limit on trading land items.
I am fine with expansion items not being included in the NH trading.
However, I do find it pointless that there are timers on the asking and donating, on top of the already low daily limit.
Nothing was mentioned about any timers in between asking, only the daily limit was announced.
The only plus I see about this is if you're in a NH with multiple players who happen to only have one of each item. The person who needs them no longer has to go from farm to farm to farm to grab them. I can see that as a bonus if you're in a hurry to fill a boat or truck. If I understand how it works, that is. I'm in a two person hood. We've been playing with it just because it's there, but it's not that useful for us. Yet. ;)
Same here. So far we have traded onions and tea leaves. But I do see with larger nh, or in some cases (yours for example) opposite time zones or ones that don't allow chatting, then this could be a good addition. Time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haystacker
I think I want to put in a request for 1 share of Supercell after the buyout of Softbank's shares yesterday by Tencent... Maybe Nick can stop by, join the hood and fill it...
And maybe now those who always think that this is such a small friendly non-profit driven company will see the billions involved in this and that pretty much every move is designed to keep that $100m a day rolling in.
Peachie and I are just trading small stuff back and forth -- jury's out :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bestajunior
I find this feature to be so restricted it is entirely useless. I'm doing it strictly for the achievements. I run several farms and regularity move dozens of items (food and ems) from one to another. That does not count the stuff I give my neighbors. 50 per hour and 1 request every 15 minutes would be a useful tool. So far it's a neat idea. Sort of like NASCAR with the cars governed at 5 mph!
My hope is that it's a test. Maybe they rolled it out with snails in mind so that large quantities of items don't get lost in case of a glitch. Example: request made for 5 blankets. 3 neighbors donate but they get lost in Raven Mail so the one requesting doesn't get them. Let's find the glitch now before we lose 50 blankets. Easy to change the limits later on. Yup. Definitely hoping.
One good thing about the new trading feature that no one has mentioned is it gives you up to five spaces for items that are stored in the barn and up to 10 spaces for items that are stored in the silo. I know 5 spaces in barn is not much but every little bit helps when don't want to sell anything.
Also if trading was unlimited, then everyone would complain that there was nothing in the newspaper.
Speaking for myself and my neighbours, a protected trading box is what we'd rather have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lallybroch
We did try out the new feature but only the once to see what it was all about. We still ask each in chat what we need and use the rss to transfer for 1 coin. Nothing has changed for us.
I doubt this would be the case as many players depend on sales for coins. Not me, but I have never advertised or sold anything other than wheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by tammy2830
I guess the space saving could be an advantage from time to time.
I have had a dual experience of if from 2 very different perspectives. First main farm in a large high level very active Nh, where it was first grrrr then almost funny until you lower expectations, and just go with it for a spot of the particular jam or fancy cake you are short, as we are coming to do. Second perspective was my baby farm, which is off visiting a very quiet Nh that has 3 former neighbours on other side of world and 2 I don't know who I don't share any language in common with. There it's been good and creates new possibilities - I would have no way of knowing or helping a Swedish neighbour wanting tomato soup if the most communication we have is thumbs up and smile emoticons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bestajunior
I guess I just need to request free wheat 197 more days, and then I can ignore it completely.
63/4000???
LOL. Are you ready to pay capital gains tax because Supercell stock will appreciate? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by rbcrewser
Wow oh wow, are there some forummates who think Supercell is a non-profit driven company?Quote:
Originally Posted by rbcrewser
Like any small startup, Supercell sought funding from venture capitalists to sustain its growth. It grew so fast and became so profitable that it attracted the attention of Softbank who bought 51% of Supercell but wisely granted operational autonomy to its new subsidiary.
FYI, Supercell reported in March 2016 that its earnings in 2015 was $930 million.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-su...-idUSKCN0WB16L
May I ask for your source which claimed Supercell makes $100 million a day?
My requests have been for stuff that I genuinely need or could make use of right away. A lot of coal and silver ore. I'm always a little short of those ores to feed my smelters, and I can't always find it in the DD right away. (I usually give up after two sweeps of the newspaper.)Quote:
Originally Posted by rbcrewser
But I agree with your point that the main purpose of this feature is not to make it possible for us to trade in a way that makes a huge impact in our game. It feels like mostly like another facet of game play.
The eight-hour timer is another limit that adds to the enticement/pressure of checking into the game at regular intervals.
The limits create a scarcity of requests in some neighborhoods, so there's the fun (or frustration) of competition to fill requests and get those achievements.
I wish they'd allowed trading for EMs and a higher number of items. I can also see how they probably wanted to make sure NH trading didn't kill the incentive for players to use the DD, hire Tom, make/acquire stuff themselves. So maybe that's another reason for the limits on requests.
EDIT: Hey Lynn! Based on the info from the thread in your sig, we can now calculate SC's daily average revenue (vs. profit/earnings) for 2015, at least. It was about $6.38 million per day. Derived from a reported $2.33 billion that year.
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Originally Posted by Clancy74
Have you seen the achievement rewards? Maybe you want to reconsider? First reward, the roof of the Raven house becomes flat instead of pointed, second reward is your tiles change design. Wow, just pathetic.
I lol'd so at the achievement prizes for this new feature of the game, I mean what the heck is up with that? I read a comment somewhere that this feature may change how you play the game, HOW?
I think so much time and effort went into this, are people really going to pay diamonds to do a request earlier than the allowed free time?
Why? to get a fancier paving at your useless little house? nothing wrong with paving already there IMO.
Going to just do a free request every allowed free time for something ridiculous such as crops, and my hoodies will do the same, just to complete the achievement and for no other reason.
You might be thinking of a few comments from people who said that if Supercell fixed the Last Helpers Tab it would change how they play the game. This doesn't even come close, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhatNotHappy
eta: Just saw this:
http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7718615
That must be what you are referring to. Sorry!
@ snakiddy, no was before the updates were revealed, not sure if it was in the AMA or on one of the youtube channels, it was in relation to this specific feature, they said it would change the way some play the game, still totally confused, I honestly do not see how.
i am fully aware of Supercell's history. By the way, you missed a step in your attempt to tutor me on the background. You skipped the involvement of London Ventures, an operation that has time and time again taken small companies through their initial growth to build up value (achieved in this instance here by having the game evolve as desired by the players) and then reaping large profits when selling on, in this case to SoftBank...Quote:
Originally Posted by LynnK2015
Apparently however, a sense of humor and humour, is missing these days on the forums. Maybe when they reset the Trucking Event prizes Alfred can deliver one to y'all.
USA Today cited the $100m. As have other news sources in the past.
Not reconsider but clarify. I'm doing it for the achievement alone. 132/132. Not the rewards. I agree with many on the value of these rewards, which is even less for me as I don't decorate.Quote:
Originally Posted by MIKEMIKE21
My NH (as a whole) likes this feature. When someone requests an item, we donate however many we can without the requester having to jump from neighbor to neighbor collecting the items. As far as the limits, I'm not sure how I feel about that at this moment. I'd like to give it a little longer before I make a decision on that. I love the trading titles, because I think that they encourage players to do for themselves as much as possible, and ask for donations when necessary. Time will tell, though.
Well I've concluded I am clueless as to the point of this. All of us in our hood have the first achievement.
We have all traded equal.
Three have been designated as "light traders". One has nothing as a title.
How can anyone be more than "light"? You can speed up requesting items, but you can't speed up donating.
This is feature is totally useless IMHO as designed with the time constraints and quantity limits.
I personally use the request button to help me with boat orders.
that's nice you have found a use for it Fortresskings.. we just flag crates in my hood so others can get the coins, xp and boat points
Don't forget derby tasks :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by TexasLea
clarify?Quote:
Originally Posted by FortressKings
The one diamond boat glitch has gone. You can only request every 6 hours or whatever, so how is it useful for boats in a derby task?
I was thinking that may be it's best purpose lately myself; might put it forward to the hood.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbcrewser
It just is too restrictive to be overly useful; instead exploit it's free XP and get the achievement quicker...
Spend gems... :smirk:Quote:
Originally Posted by rbcrewser
well yes we can all spend diamonds to speed up boats, or to speed up requests, but eventually you'll run out of being able to have people donate because you can't spend diamonds to speed that aspect up.Quote:
Originally Posted by FortressKings
i am glad it works for you though, but like I said, I find it a thoroughly useless aspect of the game... And I don't think I am alone.
personally though, instead of spending diamonds I would just put the stuff in my last crate for someone to buy on a task for one coin.. But if you're happy donating diamonds to stuff the pockets of supercell, more power to you.