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After analyze trading thread
I got some conclusion
feel free to analyze or comment
Standard currency = BEM
Bem - Sem =1:2-3
Bem - Lem(+map) = 1: 6-10
Bem - Tem = 1:4-8
Bem - Axe/saws = 1:4-10
Bem - mining tools = 1:3-6
so you can know you average trade is very good/average/bad
hope this helps
facebook trading community is having more deviation like x2 this rate high low
As has been explained to you MANY TIMES, what constitutes a good ratio is in the minds of the PLAYERS THEMSELVES.
There are no set trading ratios, and no ratio is "good" or "bad" -- it's just numbers.
1:1 2:3 10:1 -- matters not at all because the TRADERS decide what's fair, and that decision will vary widely between players and situations.
I understand that good/bad is only on trader mindsQuote:
Originally Posted by PerkyCox
but this just like a simple review of trade ratio
it just to help people
like if someone really blind
he can throw in offer like 1 mallet(m) for 2 bolt(y)
and will almost not get any response
He/she will wait like a week/months and wonder what the hell happen why no one reply or kik
and then he/she will think trading is only exclusive for known member to another and no place for outsiders
(he/she dont know the trouble simply the ratio)
I haven't seen that -- the vast majority of traders (new traders especially) closely look at the trading thread to get an idea of trades that were made successfully in the last, and make their offers accordingly.
its okay to like numbers. It's okay to track trends. But as I have said, trades are as varied as traders. It's not about the ratios and more about finding win-win situations.
Numbers are black and white. Win-wins in different situations are very grey.
I get why you might like to reduce trading to easy-to-understand numbers, but the reality of trading is that it is a complex interaction between players that does not lend itself to rigid black-and-white pronouncements and forum-set ratios.
It changes. All the time.
People can work out what is or isn't a 'good deal' for themselves, it's part of the game & varies from one player to another, from one day to the next.
You are really obsessed with the trading forum - you might enjoy some of the pure trading games a lot more than trying to find a single correct way for everyone to play HD.
Yes -- because there is no single "correct" way to play Hay Day, trying to impose black and white rules on a deeply personal varied game is not going to work. Each player's game is necessarily different because each PERSON playing HD is different, with different goals, desires, likes, dislikes, skills, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SmallChange
Creating a global game that appeals to people all over the world wherever they are and in whatever way they play is the genius of Hay Day :)
If the update includes a new Town building you will see TEM to BEM/SEM ratios change dramatically When Town was first introduced the ratio was 1 TEM for 4+ BEM and it was being accepted. If it turns out that new land is released after all TEM will jump in demand. or if they make a new container like the tackle box it'll change the demand for whatever expands it. the trend I'm noticing currently is everyone who used to be in search of planks apparently filled their need and now the search is on for the tape farms. but that'll change in a few months too.
but yes I agree with Perky new traders tend to do the same as you they scan the trade thread and decide they want to jump into the trading waters. the first 20-30 trades they tend to contact the ones that post and accept their deal. afterwards they eventually notice no one is posting the deal they want most. and so they, using the tried and true methods of the past 50 or so traders post their trade request. and if it's fair they get a bite. if it's greedy they may still get a bite. if it's too greedy they won't or they'll get a posted reply along the lines of good luck getting someone to accept that trade.
At least that was always my experience. Can't see it changing much lately.
New trader here, was just wondering about the meaning of the acronyms used in the thread as follows:
Bem - Sem
Bem - Lem(+map)
Bem - Tem
Enlighten me please, thanks.
BEM = Barn expansion materialsQuote:
Originally Posted by The♥♥♥♥♥Kelv
SEM = Silo expansion materials
LEM = Land expansion materials
TEM = Town expansion materials
The rates posted by Alvin is opinion only; they are absolutely not fixed. You can trade at whatever terms you want. As long as you aim for a fair trade on both sides you will do just fine.
Got it.Quote:
Originally Posted by daz258
Cheers xx
To be fair to the OP, I don't interpret this as him saying that the ratios are objectively "good" or "bad." My interpretation is that these are his observations for the going rates in the trading thread for this month, and people can compare whether they're trading at higher or lower rates of exchange. That he sets a time period on the info shows he understands that these are fluctuating figures.
So, no matter how many times it's been explained that the definition of a "good" ratio is elusive and/or highly personal to the player, I don't think that's what his intention is here. And it feels like he's being told that this discussion is undesirable or disallowed in some way. :unsure: If it is, perhaps a mod could clarify.
If the numbers are more or less correct, then it's an interesting piece of info.
If people don't trade according to these numbers, then that - obviously - doesn't mean they're trading "wrong" or anything like that.
But the trading thread is like a marketplace. If a newcomer goes to the market and wants apples, and runs to the first stall that's selling them for $5 each. Maybe a kindly fellow shopper will point him to another stall that sells them for $1 each. In most marketplaces, there'll probably be advertising or signage (or an online search function) that will help people compare prices. But - in the trading thread - that info is not obvious. It's spread out over dozens (hundreds?) of pages. It's difficult and inefficient to determine.
I hear what your saying LetTheMusicPlay, but there are just far too many variables to set a precedent.
Ratios can vary for so different circumstances, that even the ratios posted while reasonable in some cases; are certainly not reasonable in some other cases.
That's why such threads are always frowned upon. No matter who makes them.
Price, patience, barn space available, new trader or regular trader, supply, game updates are just some of many factors that can tilt ratios significantly.
What was a fair ratio one week ago could be very different next week.
The traders at the time set the equilibrium. No one else.
I hear you too, daz. And players will presumably ignore Alvin's observations if they prefer.
I imagine it's a question that many new traders wonder about. Am I being taken advantage of? I guess they could read the trading thread themselves and observe what the most common offers are.
I didn't read this thread as setting a firm precedent for prices into perpetuity. It's one player's personal snapshot for what he believes the current average exchange rates are.
Oh agree, I read it that way also.Quote:
Originally Posted by LetTheMusicPlay
I'm just pointing out a word of caution to a new trader that may see this and think, OK; that must be right guess I have to trade to those ratios. If that happens, that may not necessarily be a good result.
Especially during new update time when ratios are highly subject to change as players priorities are shifting and there are more casual eyes here than normal.