Journal of a rusher....

Visit my new blog, Noc's Clash Journal, for this series and more!

Rushing a CoC game is the best way to get playing quickly. It does require a bit of a financial and time commitment to be successful, but we’re not talking a great deal of either. (We all have lives, after all.) Things will slow down at TH7, but the first 6 levels of the game can be progressed through very quickly.

Seeing how long this thread has become, I've added an index to the bottom of this message. There's lots of great discussion and debate in between, but for someone who wants the highlights, jump to the end for the links.

Getting Started - Offense & Army
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The first step is to get the game “playable” as quickly as possible. For those who are brand new to the game, the first 4 town halls (THs) serve a purpose in teaching you how to play. For those with experience or who are particularly game savvy (maybe watching YouTube videos)…they’re pretty dull. So, I gem the levels and buy the remaining three builders for about $30, then add another $20 in gems for rushing timers on upgrades and resources.

To do this, you’ll need to buy all the resource structures and upgrade them quickly. Storages are first on the list simply because you need to put the gold into gold storage to upgrade the TH, and elixir into the elixir storages to upgrade the gold storages so you can store enough gold for the TH upgrades!

Once this is done, you’ll want to get the remaining resource and army structures so you can maximize gold/elixir production and be ready to start raiding.

DO NOT BUY ANY DEFENSE YET.

This might surprise you BUT, to a rusher, defense is really not that important yet. You won’t be “saving up” for upgrades for a while and your initial focus should be on strictly offense and resource structures. Once you have all of these to TH5 max levels, THEN you’ll start working on the defensive structures.

By rights, you’ll be able to get all of the above done before the initial, 3 day shield runs out. (5 builders can get a lot done in a short amount of time.) Keep track of when upgrades will finish so you can hop back in and get the builders going again. Worst case scenario - this may take 5 or 6 days.


Defense
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The next step, as mentioned, is defense. The assumption is that you’ve made all offensive and resource purchases, and upgraded them along the way. Before I add defenses, I try to get army camps to at least level 3 and resource collectors to level 5 (where they can be boosted). Ideally, barracks will be at least level 3 so you have barbarians, archers, and giants.

You’ll want to start off by buying everything there is to buy. You can either gem initial build timers or let them run their course; it’s up to you and really doesn’t make that much of a difference in the initial buy.

At this point, you should have Archer Towers (AT), Cannons, Wizard Towers (WT), Mortars, Air Defenses (AD), Air Bombs, Bombs, Spring Traps, and Walls. Once you have them all purchased. Build your first, fully ripped, village base. You can use an Internet base or just come up with one of your own; we’re expecting to get raided regularly still so defense isn’t really a prime focus yet.

Next, start running through the upgrade cycle.

Walls to level 3
Archer Towers
Cannons
Wizard Towers
Mortars
Bombs
Air Defenses
Walls to levels 4 and 5

You’ll note I broke walls up into two lines. This is to provide at first a basic line of defense against barch attacks (Barbarians and Archers), then to allow you to focus on better, general defenses.


Gems
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On the topic of buying gems…this is really a totally optional thing. I recommend anyone who wants to rush buy at least $30 in gems so they can get the other 3 builders and gem some upgrades. Me, I figure on putting about $50 into a game to kick it off - that covers the builders and resources to boost my way to TH5 before the first three days of shield are up. YMMV…what works for me may or may not work for you. I’ve done this a few times now and it’s just my preferred way of playing.

I’ll post my progress periodically into this thread and/or my blog so anyone who is interested in following can do so.

One thing I want to be clear about - rushing your game is not for everyone. Rushing smart will get you access to resources more quickly and higher level troops to use in both raiding and war. It requires a little $$$ up front (not a lot) and a commitment to regular raiding. There are some clans out there that do not see the value in a rushed base so you might find it difficult to get into certain war clans. Likewise, if you want to play a very casual game, you can get away with rushing up through TH7 but after that there's no real casual play for anyone, let alone a rusher. Keep these things in mind as you play your game.

NOW - here's a quick index to specific posts within this thread. I'll try to keep this updated as I go, but we're already up to something like 20 pages and 2 months of posts, so....

Opening Post - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7450031

Day 1 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7450047

Day 2 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7450062

Day 3 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7450097

Days 4 & 5 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7450162

End of Week 1 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7478522

Day 8 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7488700

Day 11 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7510548

TH6 Upgrade…Interim Update - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7538948

Day 14, Upgrade to TH6 finished - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7546509

TH6 Interim Update - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7560504

Day 18, moving to TH7 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7589469

Day 20, TH7 Upgrade…Interim Update - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7614172

Day 21…TH7 upgrade finished - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7634586

Day 23 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7662324

Day 28 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7700876

Day 33 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7746235

Maxing at TH7 on another game - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7760982

Day 40 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7807577

Day 47 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7869738

Defenseless Base Journal Entry #1 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7876719

How NOT to rush to TH11…and how to recover…. - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7877350

What about NOT rushing? - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7845974

Defenseless Base Journal Entry #2 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7885275

Defenseless Base Journal Entry - Day 3 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7888348

TH9 - Current Status - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7905230

Day 59 Update - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7952370

Defenseless Base Journal Entry - Day 12 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7960676

Day 63 - Interim Update.... - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7981411

My recently upgraded TH10.... - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7993422

TH8 and...final entry here.... - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post8034801

A brief update.... - https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...=1#post8169786

Day 120 - Final update: The blog is active! - https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...=1#post8370940

Day 150 - Five months in! - http://blog.clashmaniac.com/2016/10/...months-in.html

How to manage your game. - http://blog.clashmaniac.com/2016/10/...-upgrades.html


Lord Bruno the First’s Rushing Logs

Opening Post - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7479007

Days 2 & 3 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7499082

Days 4 & 5 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7506592

Day 6 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7514503

Days 7 & 8 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7528130

Day 9 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7537270

Day 10 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7546177

Day 11 - http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post7553503



Sin of Dusk’s Clashing Guides

https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/



Noctaire's Clash Journal

http://blog.clashmaniac.com


Some great bases to consider for your TH9 and TH10 games:

Crows

https://forum.supercell.com/showthre...-Spawning-Base

Raven

http://blog.clashmaniac.com/2016/10/...h10-raven.html

Day 1 - Created account and gemmed resource structures to advance to TH3. Ran into Google’s in-app purchase security issue; sent e-mail to Google to get security hold on account cleared so I can buy gems. Started TH4 upgrade in the meantime.


(Note: Google does this sometimes; a new account that immediately begins making in-app purchases looks to be a red flag for them, even if the purchases are made using a gift card. A simple call or e-mail is usually all it takes to get this fixed but it does kill 4 or so hours.)


Spent $50 on gems. Purchased additional three builders and gemmed TH to level 5. Bought all additional resource buildings available through TH5 and started upgrading them. Bought all available army buildings as well as rebuilding the clan castle.


This required buying some resources along the way as well; when all was said and done, I spent about 6000 gems altogether. This is the only time you’ll need to spend the gems to jumpstart the game. If you prefer, you can spread the first day across three days and save $20 ($30 is needed to buy the three builders).




End of Day 1:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 5
Builder’s Hut X 5
Walls X 100 - Level 1


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 7
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 7
Gold Mines X 5 - Level 5
Elixir Collectors X 5 - Level 5


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 1
Army Camps X 3 - Level 1
Barracks X 3 - Level 3
Laboratory X 1 -Level 2
Barbarians - Level 2
Archers - Level 2
Goblins - Level 1
Giants - Level 1
Spell Factory - Level 1 (Building)


Cannon X 1 - Level 1


Before you call it a night, set up some 12 hour upgrades; the short ones you’ll want to do during the daytime when you’re around to keep things moving.

Guide for a non gemmer please.

Day 2 - Buy all defensive structures (level 1), then continue upgrading both defensive and offensive structures. This is a good time to boost your collectors (especially if you’re lucky enough to be doing this during a one-gem-boost sale). Upgraded the CC to level 2.


End of Day 2:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 5
Builder’s Hut X 5


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 8
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 8
Gold Mines X 5 - Level 5
Elixir Collectors X 5 - Level 5


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 2
Army Camps X 3 - Level 3
Barracks X 3 - Level 4
Laboratory X 1 -Level 2
Barbarians - Level 2
Archers - Level 2
Giants - Level 2
Goblins - Level 1
Spell Factory - Level 1


Cannon X 3 - Level 1
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 1
Wizard Tower X 1 - Level 1 (Building)
Mortar X 1 - Level 1
Air Defense X 1 - Level 1
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 1
Spring Trap X 2 - Level 1
Bomb X 4 - Level 2

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Originally Posted by AyanD

Guide for a non gemmer please.

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This is not a gemmer's guide but it does recommend an initial investment of $30 to get the other builders. I've done the rush thing without spending any money at all; put simply, it takes too long.

I like this. I have an almost finished th6. I'm gonna rush this one see how it goes. I will follow in your foot steps.

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Originally Posted by Noctaire

This is not a gemmer's guide but it does recommend an initial investment of $30 to get the other builders. I've done the rush thing without spending any money at all; put simply, it takes too long.

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Ok thank you. I may make a second base which is rushed.

Day 3 - Continued upgrading defenses and built new base.




End of Day 3:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 5
Builder’s Hut X 5


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 8
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 8
Gold Mines X 5 - Level 5
Elixir Collectors X 5 - Level 5


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 2
Army Camps X 3 - Level 3
Barracks X 3 - Level 5
Laboratory X 1 -Level 3
Barbarians - Level 2
Archers - Level 2
Giants - Level 2
Goblins - Level 1
Wallbreakers - Level 1
Spell Factory - Level 1


Cannon X 3 - Level 4
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 4
Wizard Tower X 1 - Level 1
Mortar X 1 - Level 2
Air Defense X 1 - Level 1 (Upgrading)
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 1
Spring Trap X 2 - Level 1
Bomb X 4 - Level 2

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Originally Posted by AyanD

Ok thank you. I may make a second base which is rushed.

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If you want to go with no money invested at all, you can do that but you'll need to revise the guide to not spending any gems so you can save up for the additional builders, and it will take you about two or more months to get where you'd be in a week buying the other builders up front. The only reason I used an additional $20 beyond that $30 is because I was short on time at the moment and wanted to get this base on its way quicker. $50 is my limit though; I may eventually buy some more to boost barracks/collectors, but that's not likely to happen until I hit something like TH8 or TH9 where there's a benefit to doing so.

Days 4 & 5 - I continued to work on general upgrades, specifically focused on the collectors. The base was raided over 30 times in 5 hours for a net gain of over 625 trophies. When the shield again dropped, it was raided to 768 trophies. Of course, most are trophy droppers. Walls are now level 2 and all resource collectors will be level 7 in the morning.


Resource collectors will continue to be the focus this week. (Level 8 is a 1 day upgrade.). Build times are now a primary determinant in how quickly things progress


End of Day 5:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 5
Builder’s Hut X 5


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 8
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 8
Gold Mines X 5 - Level 7
Elixir Collectors X 5 - Level 7


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 2
Army Camps X 3 - Level 3
Barracks X 3 - Level 5
Laboratory X 1 -Level 3
Barbarians - Level 3
Archers - Level 2
Giants - Level 2
Goblins - Level 2
Wallbreakers - Level 1
Lightning spell - Level 1
Spell Factory - Level 1


Cannon X 3 - Level 4
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 4
Wizard Tower X 1 - Level 1
Mortar X 1 - Level 2
Air Defense X 1 - Level 2
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 1
Spring Trap X 2 - Level 1
Bomb X 4 - Level 3

So...I lied a little; I decided to focus a bit more on defense the last couple of days of this first week. I've run only a handful of raids (4) and I am sitting at 902 trophies in Silver III league. I've been "attacked" 40 times and lost 3; most are really trophy dumps though. I don't anticipate many serious attacks until I jump to TH6. Which, at my current pace and availability, should occur in the next week.

The first week is just ending; I have all 5 of my gold mines upgrading to level 8 right now and Archers have about a day to go in the lab. Below is the state of the game after right about a week's worth of play. (For anyone keeping track, I started the game the evening of the 18th of May and today is the 25th.) With the exception of walls, I believe everything has just one level left to upgrade now. The next week's focus will be on finishing the TH5 max-out of everything and starting the TH6 upgrade.

Total time playing each each day at this point...maybe ten minutes across the day; fifteen minutes on the outside. I'm really just clearing collectors and running upgrades; the collectors can keep up with the demand, for the main part, so I haven't even needed to spend any time raiding for resources until today. This is because the upgrades are inexpensive right now, and I am scheduling them with time for the gold mines/elixir collectors to dig up some resources. It's only when I run back to back collector upgrades that I run short (because elixir collectors use gold and gold mines use elixir).

My next update will be in roughly another week.


End of Week 1:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 5
Builder’s Hut X 5


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 8
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 8
Gold Mines X 5 - Level 8 (UC)
Elixir Collectors X 5 - Level 8


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 2 (Maxed)
Army Camps X 3 - Level 3
Barracks X 3 - Level 6
Laboratory X 1 - Level 3 (Maxed)
Barbarians - Level 3 (Maxed)
Archers - Level 3 (Maxed)
Giants - Level 2 (Maxed)
Goblins - Level 2
Wall-breakers - Level 2 (Maxed)
Balloons - Level 1
Lightning spell - Level 1
Spell Factory - Level 1 (Maxed)


Cannon X 3 - Level 6 (Maxed)
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 5
Wizard Tower X 1 - Level 1
Mortar X 1 - Level 2
Air Defense X 1 - Level 2
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 1
Spring Trap X 2 - Level 1 (Maxed)
Bomb X 4 - Level 3 (Maxed)
Walls X 100 - Level 3

how far do you plan to go with this and can we start our own Journals on here (mine would be a bit different)

Real nice, i am rushing two accounts as of the moment, i initially plan to rush to th8 and the other is rush to th10...

This is stupid.

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Originally Posted by LordBrunothefirst

how far do you plan to go with this and can we start our own Journals on here (mine would be a bit different)

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As far as I go...maybe to TH11, who knows? I see players asking about how to rush sensibly and we have a guide or two, but I don't know that anyone has actually chronicled their rushed game to show how it works out. Ideally this would help out with some of the anti-rushing arguments as well. There will always be a rusher camp and there will always be a maxer camp, of course, but maybe this will be a resource to point out the inaccuracy of some of the anti-rushing arguments with actual data.

I'm sure some will find it pointless while others find it useful. The magic of being able to ignore handles on the board will be the negative nelly's friend.... :)

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Originally Posted by Noctaire

As far as I go...maybe to TH11, who knows? I see players asking about how to rush sensibly and we have a guide or two, but I don't know that anyone has actually chronicled their rushed game to show how it works out. Ideally this would help out with some of the anti-rushing arguments as well. There will always be a rusher camp and there will always be a maxer camp, of course, but maybe this will be a resource to point out the inaccuracy of some of the anti-rushing arguments with actual data.


I'm sure some will find it pointless while others find it useful. The magic of being able to ignore handles on the board will be the negative nelly's friend.... :)

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Would you mind if I started my own on here just to help me keep track of my progress... also it would make for more on here for people to read and would not effect your journal at all.

You and SinofDusk are not rushers. You have never in your clash life been a rusher. You max the more difficult parts of the game first, and don't waste time. Nobody is arguing that your method is the fastest way to get to max a base.

With that being said, you are still causing 1000's and 1000's of players to quit the game with these ♥♥ "im rushed and i am awesome" posts. Stop. At a minimum, you need size 4000 font in bold, red, that says this only works if you play A LOT. Nobody reads that part, they only see you with a maxed base and the word "rusher" and think they can collect their way to a max base faster using your method.

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Originally Posted by LordBrunothefirst

Would you mind if I started my own on here just to help me keep track of my progress... also it would make for more on here for people to read and would not effect your journal at all.

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I don't mind; it's not for me to say either way, really. Know that you'll catch some grief from anti-rushers though. (You'll see some of that here....)

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Originally Posted by tallas13

You and SinofDusk are not rushers. You have never in your clash life been a rusher. You max the more difficult parts of the game first, and don't waste time. Nobody is arguing that your method is the fastest way to get to max a base.

With that being said, you are still causing 1000's and 1000's of players to quit the game with these ♥♥ "im rushed and i am awesome" posts. Stop. At a minimum, you need size 4000 font in bold, red, that says this only works if you play A LOT. Nobody reads that part, they only see you with a maxed base and the word "rusher" and think they can collect their way to a max base faster using your method.

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Tallas - why haven't you put me on ignore yet if you dislike my posts so much?

I am am far from a maxer; you can visit my bases and see that much and this journal will show it as well. (Actually, my TH11 may still be considered a premie; I way rushed that one.) What exactly do you consider a rusher?

And, seriously...I am putting in a massive 10-15 minutes a day right now. Watch the journal as I update it over the next month; I do not put in as much time on a single game as you seem to think. I will not put in more than an hour in any given day until I hit TH7, and even then it will be less than 3 hours a week until TH9.

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Originally Posted by bolony21

So is this going to be like a rushers survival journal

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Something like that, yes. I'm just going to put in here what I do as I do it; a weekly report of sorts as I go.

Noctaire, don't listen to all the haters. They don't know how to play the game. Keep doing what you're doing :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Noctaire

Tallas - why haven't you put me on ignore yet if you dislike my posts so much?

I am am far from a maxer; you can visit my bases and see that much and this journal will show it as well. (Actually, my TH11 may still be considered a premie; I way rushed that one.) What exactly do you consider a rusher?

And, seriously...I am putting in a massive 10-15 minutes a day right now. Watch the journal as I update it over the next month; I do not put in as much time on a single game as you seem to think. I will not put in more than an hour in any given day until I hit TH7, and even then it will be less than 3 hours a week until TH9.

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Because I am not going to quit the game because of your posts. I am not trying to protect myself. I am trying to protect the noobs who read (skim) your guide and totally degrade their clash experience because of it. Ignoring you will only make things worse as I can not jump in these threads and at least attempt to show the noobs whats actually possible.

There are much more levels of game play between maxer and rusher. A rusher is the TH10 with a level 3 queen. A rusher is the TH11 with sub level 7 walls. A rusher is has 0 maxed troops/buildings/heros for his TH level.

You are not a rusher. You are a strategic player that got irked by someone calling you a rusher, and now you trying "prove them wrong" by not sucking, and still calling yourself a rusher.

Stop being the reason 1000's of forumers quit the game.

So as approved by Noctaire I shall be starting a (maybe daily... depends on how much action happens) Journal of my own rushing prowess... Little bit of the background of this rush.

So I rushed this account to th9 with th6-7 defenses but th8 offense. Now I have maxed everything but walls that a town hall 8 would have maxed + more levels on some things. I then read a few threads on how rushing could be the best way to play. Myself, a very curious person decided to figure this out for myself. 2 days ago on the dot I began my upgrade to th10 with rushed heroes, some troops, and defenses. I am curious to see how much faster upgrading goes once I establish myself as a th10. So far 2 days into the upgrade I have mainly been focusing on a game plan and not much on actual raiding.

In the last two days these are upgrades I have completed/started

Th9-10 (10/12 days)
Minions 4-5 (finished)
Goblins 4-5 (heard they were good for farming at th10) (started 1/5 days)
2 spring traps to lvl 2 (one finished one started)


I will update you guys on how th10 goes.

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2
elixer will be saved up for lab and spell factory upgrade

Hope you guys have fun with this journal aswell as Noctaire's

Those who gem resources , should be banned from writing guide

#Pathetic

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Originally Posted by tallas13

Because I am not going to quit the game because of your posts. I am not trying to protect myself. I am trying to protect the noobs who read (skim) your guide and totally degrade their clash experience because of it. Ignoring you will only make things worse as I can not jump in these threads and at least attempt to show the noobs whats actually possible.

There are much more levels of game play between maxer and rusher. A rusher is the TH10 with a level 3 queen. A rusher is the TH11 with sub level 7 walls. A rusher is has 0 maxed troops/buildings/heros for his TH level.

You are not a rusher. You are a strategic player that got irked by someone calling you a rusher, and now you trying "prove them wrong" by not sucking, and still calling yourself a rusher.

Stop being the reason 1000's of forumers quit the game.

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Rushing is strategic and that's the point that I, and we rail others, have made time and again in these forums. BTW - I've never been irked by someone calling me a rusher; I openly admit as much.

Look at my games and my strategy for playing is fairly straightforward. I have a TH11 with level 6 walls, heroes at 9/9/5, and previously TH7 level structures (they are all TH8+ now). I have three TH6 games with level 5 walls and a mix of TH level 5-level 6 structures that are upgrading to TH7 right now. I have this newly minted TH5 game with mostly TH4 level structures that will max TH5 then essentially skip TH6 to go to TH7. I just maxed three TH8 games - one that still had TH4 and TH5 level structures when I took it over - for everything but walls; these will get level 7 walls (purple) then two will go to TH9. My TH9 is now maxed for all structures and troops (except what was just added yesterday, of course) and will go to TH11 on skull and Lego walls, completely skipping TH10.

These are all rushed games. None were fully maxed before moving up (except at TH5) and all follow the exact same pattern I list in this thread and my other posts. I am also very clear about the amount of time I play the game and how long it will take to do what I do on each, including in this thread where I have (and will continue) posted the time I spend daily on the game.

As to you quitting, or the "...thousands of forumers..." who quit after reading these posts...that's hyperbole of the most exaggerated variety.

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Originally Posted by Shailendra1991

Those who gem resources , should be banned from writing guide

#Pathetic

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I dont gem resources... I dont believe Noctaire does either... if he does it is not much.

Oh my tallas and noctair might go at it! *grabs popcorn*

BTW noctaire looks like a cool thread, im interested to see how it goes

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Originally Posted by NotTheRealPaul

Oh my tallas and noctair might go at it! *grabs popcorn*

BTW noctaire looks like a cool thread, im interested to see how it goes

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I feel like instead of saying these things, talas should be a bit more mature on how he is handling the situation. If he does not like what Noctaire does than just say that and back off. I dont like what a lot of people do and I dont constantly blame them for stuff that is not true. Just my opinion on this matter.

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Originally Posted by tallas13

Because I am not going to quit the game because of your posts. I am not trying to protect myself. I am trying to protect the noobs who read (skim) your guide and totally degrade their clash experience because of it. Ignoring you will only make things worse as I can not jump in these threads and at least attempt to show the noobs whats actually possible.

There are much more levels of game play between maxer and rusher. A rusher is the TH10 with a level 3 queen. A rusher is the TH11 with sub level 7 walls. A rusher is has 0 maxed troops/buildings/heros for his TH level.

You are not a rusher. You are a strategic player that got irked by someone calling you a rusher, and now you trying "prove them wrong" by not sucking, and still calling yourself a rusher.

Stop being the reason 1000's of forumers quit the game.

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Just to correct you, a premmie is those things. A rusher is someone like SinOfDusk who you may or may not of heard of.

Ignore the naysayers.

Rushing is the only way to progress today. All maxxers are feeling betrayed and irritated by rushers who can run over their fully maxed base by playing half the time they have devoted.

Rushing is upgrading TH to next level without "maxing" defenses so you can max heroes or walls faster and be more efficient. Its mainly done to get a headstart at TH9 where walls and heroes take a long time. It shouldnt be confused with upgrading prematurely. hes done 4 raids total. Just a premmie with pink walls and a bunch of gems

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Originally Posted by afako

Ignore the naysayers.

Rushing is the only way to progress today. All maxxers are feeling betrayed and irritated by rushers who can run over their fully maxed base by playing half the time they have devoted.

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HAHAHHAAHA wow was it you the th11 or TH10 or th9 i smashed today, really you should stop spinning this feculence
PLEASE explain how a rushed can run over a maxed base with max defense and troops

I agree with rushing upgrade all your collectors

So your attacking people with inept troops and no defense but you have a big TH

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Originally Posted by crushedhab

HAHAHHAAHA wow was it you the th11 or TH10 or th9 i smashed today, really you should stop spinning this feculence
PLEASE explain how a rushed can run over a maxed base with max defense and troops

I agree with rushing upgrade all your collectors

So your attacking people with inept troops and no defense but you have a big TH

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well an intelligent rusher will be maxed th11 waaaay faster than a maxer.
because as maxer you lose so much time with idle builders.

and for sure a rusher can crush maxed bases, because this only depends on offense upgrades, and a rusher does have that ;)

so, rushing is way more intelligent than maxing, br everyone as he likes..

Defensive capabilities are irrelevant when attacking; a rusher's stronger offense will trump here every time. The key, and I've said this many a time, is to rush smartly so you can build that offense. This is even the case in clan wars - a rushed base MAY give up three stars, but that player will likely put 6 up on the board for his time and they may include bases ranked higher than him/her, allowing other players to attack lower ranked opponents (increasing probability of success).

To be clear, though - this all assumes the player is rushing with a good strategy. You can't just upgrade your TH and expect to do well; it doesn't work that way. This is also where the time commitment comes into play as well. Through TH6, you can play very little each day and rapidly upgrade your base. You can even get away with this early on at TH7. By mid-TH7, though, you need to become a more active player, putting up a few hours each week.

Recent changes to the game have made this much easier to do - boost times have been reduced to 5 gems and 1 hour long; troops and spells cook much more quickly; heroes regenerate more quickly; loot availability has been dramatically increased; you can now attack through shields and even buy 2 hours of village guard to protect your village while you attack/cook an army.

Likewise, the rusher's strategy needs to be adjusted as you climb through the town hall levels. What works at TH5 will not work so well at TH7 or TH9. There are different defenses that become important to upgrade, different troops too.

Like I said earlier...this is the point of this thread; to explain some of the strategy and show how I do it. YMMV, of course, but I've done this now on a dozen games so I got a system....

The only reasons to rush are if your engineering a base for war or if you play in sessions and farm 3mill+ gold a day. the reason for rushing is to avoid the bottleneck and idle builders at TH9 when you have heroes to 30 and 3 million a piece walls. if you arent intending to get heroes that high or high walls there is no point rushing. playing a few hours a week.... there is no point rushing. You may have had a few premmie accounts but the strat your explaining isnt really rushing, which is why your getting heat

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Originally Posted by crushedhab

HAHAHHAAHA wow was it you the th11 or TH10 or th9 i smashed today, really you should stop spinning this feculence
PLEASE explain how a rushed can run over a maxed base with max defense and troops

I agree with rushing upgrade all your collectors

So your attacking people with inept troops and no defense but you have a big TH

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Well a maxxer doesn't imply that his Townhall is maxed brick by brick troop by troop.

It is about your playstyle. A maxed TH8 can be ripped apart by a rushed TH9 with same TH8 level troops. A maxed TH9 can be over run by TH10 Gibarcher with mid level heroes while the maxxer Nine will fear the Infernos.

See who is superior?

exactly my words afako!

a new/ bad th10 with infernos and some th10 troops is already better than a maxed th9.

because maxed th9 is just so damn weak ;)

Premature village

http://i68.tinypic.com/dnlt6u.png

Rushed village

http://i63.tinypic.com/2qa0aw4.png

One is upgraded early, the other is tactically upgraded to avoid idle builders while heroes and walls are upgraded. Do you see the difference? The rushed village which is L85 is still behind a max TH8 in time played and defences, but way ahead on heroes, walls and offence.

So...Xchar...you and I have very different definitions of rushed and premie. The first base in your post shows a TH10 with mostly TH9 structures, level 7 walls, and early TH10 structures (I think; it's kinda blurry). This based is rushed. The second village is a TH9 with a mix of structures ranging from TH5 thru TH9. Of the two, I would call the second more of a premie than a rushed base; it has some very immature structures whereas the former is strategically rushed to TH10. I can't tell where the offenses are on either, but at least all troops appear available to the player, even if they may not have been upgraded yet.

Premie bases have a bunch of structures that are 3 or more TH levels below the TH level at which the base resides. They try to play at a level much higher than they can sustain, resulting in being easily raided and player disillusionment.

A strategically rushed base focuses on offense and brings defense along one or two levels behind the current TH level. It is upgraded to avoid idle builders and typically does not employ an x.5 strategy.

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Originally Posted by crushedhab

HAHAHHAAHA wow was it you the th11 or TH10 or th9 i smashed today, really you should stop spinning this feculence
PLEASE explain how a rushed can run over a maxed base with max defense and troops

I agree with rushing upgrade all your collectors

So your attacking people with inept troops and no defense but you have a big TH

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Rushed usually have up to date offence (Max in this case) and tbh I doubt you can smash a TH11..

They get smashed on defense, but that doesn't matter-loss is so small compared to net gain.

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Originally Posted by Noctaire

So...Xchar...you and I have very different definitions of rushed and premie. The first base in your post shows a TH10 with mostly TH9 structures, level 7 walls, and early TH10 structures (I think; it's kinda blurry). This based is rushed. The second village is a TH9 with a mix of structures ranging from TH5 thru TH9. Of the two, I would call the second more of a premie than a rushed base; it has some very immature structures whereas the former is strategically rushed to TH10. I can't tell where the offenses are on either, but at least all troops appear available to the player, even if they may not have been upgraded yet.

Premie bases have a bunch of structures that are 3 or more TH levels below the TH level at which the base resides. They try to play at a level much higher than they can sustain, resulting in being easily raided and player disillusionment.

A strategically rushed base focuses on offense and brings defense along one or two levels behind the current TH level. It is upgraded to avoid idle builders and typically does not employ an x.5 strategy.

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My definition of a preemie is when your offensive capabilities are much much lower than your defensive, and you usually have up to date or one TH behind defense.

Rushers are those who strategically max and who can sustain 5 builders.

I think this is the end of the eighth day...it all blurs after a while....

The gold mines completed their upgrade to level 8. All resource buildings are now level 8, so I decided to take the storages up to their max for TH5 (level 9) and work on army camps as well as another level of walls. I ran about 20 or so goblin/barbarian/archer raids over the course of an hour (boosted barracks) and generated enough resources to upgrade all walls to level 4 (1M gold); kick off the upgrade for the four storages (200k each, gold and elixir);Mick off the level 4 upgrade of two army camps (200k elixir and my last 85 gems blown by accident when I hit the wrong button...don't ask); AND completely fill my storages so I can upgrade archer and wizard towers tomorrow morning (550k of each).

At this rate, I'll be starting the TH6 upgrade this weekend.

Are you upgrading Lightning spells?

On my mini who is going to TH8, I upgraded it to Level 4 at TH5, which was 1 million elixir. How many do that?

Wow , so many people who have been mislead about purpose of rushing and its motive .

I want to clear it to the OP noctair some others who are debating what rushing is , so that they don't make some mistakes in their journey .

The reason for rushing is not so that a rusher can roll over a maxer or other bases,
Its also not done so you can max a base faster than a maxer (while it is a perk) .
A rusher doesn't need to play like a madman (too active ) to progress. Few hours a day will be enough to progress.
You really don't need to buy a single gem to kickstart your progress , with the gems you get in-game through bushes and achievements are enough to buy all 5 workers . for eg: for 4th&5th worker , push to masters,(if you been saving gems you'll have 5 easily , if not then get 4th from masters league and 5th from pushing to champions league).
And trust me pushing for workers is really fun.

A premmie is someone who can't farm or progress anymore because he upgraded th too fast and doesn't have the appropriate farming troops level , for eg: a th9 with level 3 barch or level 3 farming troops .

A rusher will always have his farming troops ready for the respected th level he is in currently , regardless of other troops level AND will have 1 war troops combo maxed for that th ( if they like to war , which should usually be the case , war is fun ). Defense level does not matter for him at all . progressing with all defenses at level 1 but maxed farming troops is also possible . you don't need to bring any defenses upto few levels behind max or anything like that .

But with that said it isn't absolutely necessary that you need to leave all defenses at level 1 .
Basically, what you want to achieve as a rusher is a way you can constantly keep playing , keep your builders busy , keep your resources flowing , there shouldn't be a case where you have to wait a day or more for a worker to dump resources , plan the workers that way so you constaly getting free workers to use the resources you been farming while upgrading stuff .

Most important is your heroes , since there are only two things that take the longest - lab and heroes to upgrade . this is why most rushers quickly rush to th9 while maintaining a farming army for same level and getting that queen early . the quicker you get her and start upgrading , the better.

Another perk you get is lab , with rushing you constantly getting new lab level every th, which helps you keep your lab going non-stop without waiting unlike in th8 where lab takes longer than building to finish (if you are maxing ) . by rushing to th9 in that case, you can keep your lab going, while keeping your workers busy .

Keep in mind , that maxing is never the purpose of rushing . you aren't rushing so you can max faster , except if you have rushed to th11, which is end of road , then eventually you will be maxing because you don't have anything left to rush to anymore .

I will give you few examples for few good rushers who have been in forums since past few years ,some left playing some still play, most of them have their threads about why they rushed and how their journey went , you can find them if you look hard .

Here are they -
1. Sharonsym ( one of the oldest rushers i can remember , he has threads about why he rushed and his journey , arguments etc , very informative )

2. ForgiveMeNot ( also one of the oldest rushers , same timeline as sharonsym's , there's a thread where he showcased his newly made account and took it to th10 and max heroes in 14 months , there you can learn how proper rushing is done .

Just a little note that both these rushers are from the time when spells look 40 min to cook , troops had longer training time , no elixir walls upgrades , hence their progress is much more remarkable .

3. Rhymquimghyf : also one of oldest rushers , his argument are the reason sharomsym started rushing .he has a thread where he discussed all the reasons.

4. Morgauth : Rushed after finding sharomsyms thread . he has probably one of the best rushing guide in forums , detailed and easy to adapt ,however old but still works great for any new rusher who want to follow this method of playing .

5. Nubcakeboxer : has a thread of his journey with few videos included in it , also had a YouTube account.

There are few more but many of them don't have proper threads here or I didn't find them.

Now many of you will say " oh you are stupid , you didn't include sinof dusk , he is probably the best rusher out there , aaaaaa" XD

But I'll disagree with that .

I agree sinofdusk has a very good journey thread , he details many things and arguments pro and cons .
He is a hardcore farmer , probably plays more than you can stay awake :smirk:
But he isn't really a proper rusher .

His was a maxer before he found other rushers and even after that his goal has been maxing till the end . He instructs on upgrading th once one of his appointed tagets are maxed : lab, heroes or walls . meaning he will upgrade the town hall if one of those things is fully maxed . though he is rushing but eventually keeping goal of maxing in his mind.
Also he plays a lot , that's why he progress this fast . he also advocates on upgrading defenses like infernos , which a rusher will never suggest you as it will unbalance you in war .
But I have already mentioned you that maxing town hall the fastest shouldn't be your goal , but keep on progressing should be , as a rusher .
I have seen many people here claim him as the best rusher just by seeing his progress threads but he doesn't represent the whole rushing community , but is a part of it. There are different ways of course one can go by rushing
But if you can farm as fast and play as much as he can , its OK to follow his methods of rushing .
You can call him a maxer who uses methods of rushing .

I hope this information will help the OP and others who are looking for a proper way to progress by rushing while not playing non-stop to achieve the goals . :)

Good luck .

So...J1in...nothing I read there is contradictory to what I've said in this thread. There are different rushing strategies deployed by various players, active and inactive. I subscribe to a more strategic rushing methodology in which you use certain targets to decide when to make the jump and work on defense along the way. This strategy has my iOS game up to a near max TH9 with heroes in the upper teens after just 9 months, and other active games in various stages of TH8-TH11.

I suppose my preference to max certain defenses along the way and drop all new structures right away doesn't fit with your idea of rushing but, like I said, there are many paths to enlightenment. As I see it, especially after December, it's imperative to drop teslas, x-bows, infernos, and the Eagle, simply to enable a measure of resource retention. They intimidate most players and reduce losses. I am less concerned with clan wars than getting my bases built; I prefer to take my maxed TH7 games to war, having dealt with the horrible matchmaking that became so common in the game after TH11 broke (which seems fixed at the moment, BTW).

On the definition of rushed vs maxer vs premie.... A rusher is anyone who does not max before moving on to the next TH level. Period. A premie is technically a rusher, yes. When I see a base with many to most defense levels more than 2 behind the TH level, I look at that base as most likely being a premie. In nearly every case, I've found the offensive capabilities of that player to also be way behind the current TH level; often more than the defensive structures. The reason I include a defense analysis in my review is because it indicates the type of player and game. If you are rushing your offense and you do not upgrade defense at all, then you are either engineering a base for clan wars or you aren't really playing the game much. Those who just jump through TH levels like crazy, have low level everything...these are premie players who will end up disillusioned because they simply rushed way too fast, and typically leave the game early on.

Strategic rushers actually plan things out and are very methodical; I separate them from the rest of the pack because they advance quickly, play a lot, and end up with strong games much more quickly than other players. SinOfDusk is a good example of this kind of rusher as are the others you mentioned. I'd like to think I fit into this category as well.

As to time investment; I disagree that you need to spend a few hours each day playing if you rush. At least until you reach the higher levels and even there, it isn't a daily thing. Eventually, your game hits a point where upgrades that's several days at a time to complete. If you play a few hours each day, your builders and lab will never be able to keep up with the resources you take in raids. This needs to be managed or you'll just be ransacked every day for max losses. I do not raid to feed other players' games, nor do I have so much time to put into the games I play. Collectively, across a dozen games, I put in a few hours each day; on any one...much less.

Again - to each his own, and there are lots of ways to play this game. My purpose with this thread was to show how I am rushing and to put to rest some of the inaccurate arguments out there, such as rushers ignore defense, rushing requires several hours a day of playing time, you'll have to play non-stop, rushing means you can't raid, rushing means you can't contribute in clan wars, rushers get rolled umpteen times a day, rushing will lead you to quit in frustration, and so forth. Each update I post will be geared in that direction.

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Interesting :smirk: Well, different people have different concepts of what is rushing. I won't disagree with you, but you're not taking into account of my alts, oh well

Looks like you didn't read my post properly or assumed something else or you got more hurt about what I said about sin , than sin himself .
Its OK , I'll clear it to you your way ;)

Let's begin *cracks knuckles *

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Originally Posted by Noctaire

So...J1in...nothing I read there is contradictory to what I've said in this thread. There are different rushing strategies deployed by various players, active and inactive. I subscribe to a more strategic rushing methodology in which you use certain targets to decide when to make the jump and work on defense along the way. This strategy has my iOS game up to a near max TH9 with heroes in the upper teens after just 9 months, and other active games in various stages of TH8-TH11.

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good to know you subscribe to strategic rushing methodology. Good luck on your active bases .

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I suppose my preference to max certain defenses along the way and drop all new structures right away doesn't fit with your idea of rushing but, like I said, there are many paths to enlightenment. As I see it, especially after December, it's imperative to drop teslas, x-bows, infernos, and the Eagle, simply to enable a measure of resource retention. They intimidate most players and reduce losses. I am less concerned with clan wars than getting my bases built; I prefer to take my maxed TH7 games to war, having dealt with the horrible matchmaking that became so common in the game after TH11 broke (which seems fixed at the moment, BTW).

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At no point I said that you shouldn't upgrade any defenses nor did I say anywhere that you shouldn't drop any new stuff right away. Underlining and making the text bold won't make your statement any more right while you don't even know what I said .
As for resource retention , you can survive without the need of dropping defenses like eagle ,xbows or infernos .
Don't live under the illusion of intimidation . infernos intimidate a th8 or th9 , but they almost never attack a th10/th11. Th10/11 attack th10/11. And they aren't that scary once you have faced them in few raids . a th10 should be used to facing infernos. Same goes for xbows for th9 and eagle for th11.
Gain more than you can lose , best way to reduce losses.

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On the definition of rushed vs maxer vs premie.... A rusher is anyone who does not max before moving on to the next TH level. Period. A premie is technically a rusher, yes. When I see a base with many to most defense levels more than 2 behind the TH level, I look at that base as most likely being a premie. In nearly every case, I've found the offensive capabilities of that player to also be way behind the current TH level; often more than the defensive structures. The reason I include a defense analysis in my review is because it indicates the type of player and game. If you are rushing your offense and you do not upgrade defense at all, then you are either engineering a base for clan wars or you aren't really playing the game much. Those who just jump through TH levels like crazy, have low level everything...these are premie players who will end up disillusioned because they simply rushed way too fast, and typically leave the game early on.

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Let's not get into technicality here , coz if we do then most of those who call themselves maxers will turn out to be rushers "technically" because they decided that few walls levels doesn't matter .
A premmie is simply someone who doesn't have the offense of the respective the level to farm resources for the stuff .
A premmie isn't a Rusher . Period.

Defense levels should never be a judge between premmie and rusher .
If someone has lab,sf , camps and one farming strat of the th level they are in or those are upgrading /lab is running , then you can call him a rusher . if not then a premmie .
Simple as that . if you have been judging rushers based on defenses , then you simply are in doing it wrong ;)

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Strategic rushers actually plan things out and are very methodical; I separate them from the rest of the pack because they advance quickly, play a lot, and end up with strong games much more quickly than other players. SinOfDusk is a good example of this kind of rusher as are the others you mentioned. I'd like to think I fit into this category as well.

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Rushing itself is strategic , everyone who rushes knows what they are doing and plan the things out , so they can advance the best way they can .if someone whos rushing and doesn't know what they aren't doing then they are simply premmies.
There is no other pack , you are either in the community or not .don't try to make yourself different ;)

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As to time investment; I disagree that you need to spend a few hours each day playing if you rush. At least until you reach the higher levels and even there, it isn't a daily thing. Eventually, your game hits a point where upgrades that's several days at a time to complete. If you play a few hours each day, your builders and lab will never be able to keep up with the resources you take in raids. This needs to be managed or you'll just be ransacked every day for max losses. I do not raid to feed other players' games, nor do I have so much time to put into the games I play. Collectively, across a dozen games, I put in a few hours each day; on any one...much less.

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I don't know why you are worried about defense losses when you call yourself a rusher . you just make more than you can lose.
In a day you defend once or twice or 5 times if you go on and off a lot .
If you just play two sessions ( 4 hours per session ) you should be making minimum 4M per session (th9/10) . that should be enough to cover every loss and enough to upgrade anything in game .
Now if you aren't making that much then something's wrong in your farming method ;)

You don't need to keep playing a lot as a rusher to progress .

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Again - to each his own, and there are lots of ways to play this game. My purpose with this thread was to show how I am rushing and to put to rest some of the inaccurate arguments out there, such as rushers ignore defense, rushing requires several hours a day of playing time, you'll have to play mom-stop, rushing means you can't raid, rushing means you can't contribute in clan wars, rushers get rolled umpteen times a day, rushing will lead you to quit in frustration, and so forth. Each update I post will be geared in that direction.

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Now here I am confused .
Here you saying that " rushing requires several hours a day of playing time " or " you'll have to play non-stop" is incorrect arguments ?
But you disagree with me when I said the same thing that " you don't need to play a lot or don't need to play non-stop " in my previous post ?

Did you even read my post ? :facepalm:
Or just jumped to defend your idol Sin without reading anything else I said ? ( no offense sin ;) )

When someone is making a big reply post , at least read it properly . don't assume you always know everything , always be ready to grab more knowledge than you already have. Everyone knows something that you don't know.
I only replied to your post when I saw some people with wrong info commenting here , my reply was never focused just on you .
I did it so others who are looking for more detailed info could see it . and you would be more clear on your rushing journey .

But I guess you have already set the path and idols in your mind and bash anyone who comes here and say something about it. Even if it helps you .
Anyway good luck ,I won't be returning here anymore .

Dear diary...

Here's what I did today:
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Pats hisself on the back.

I'm loving this thread. I'm also one of the rushers that never built infernos and xbows. Some how I learned to live without them and now I'm a great asset to my clan whenever I'm available for war since I carry a mid th9 defense that can't be three starred by any th9 but has a th11 offense that has the ability to wreck any th10.

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Looks like you didn't read my post properly or assumed something else or you got more hurt about what I said about sin , than sin himself .
Its OK , I'll clear it to you your way ;)

Let's begin *cracks knuckles *


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Anyway good luck ,I won't be returning here anymore .

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Well...Guess I fell for a troll. Ok. Let's see if he actually stays away.

I'll never understand why some people feel the need to post such negativity. Seriously...if you disagree, just ignore it. There's no need to go into such condescending, personal attacks in a forum.

Not even Defenseless.
Gemmer.

Thread not worth it. 2/10

The rush continues... 9 days left on my town hall 10. Been winning defenses and doing 10-20 snipes a day for 40-50k loot down in silver league. Focusing on saving up dark for the queen upgrade to lvl 9... at about 34k right now and climbing (45k needed). Activity this weekend will be low because of personal occurences (Memorial day stuff). Maybe 3-5 attacks a day with barch.

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl5
3 spring traps lvl 2


Things that are upgrading now

2 spring traps to lvl 2
goblins to lvl 5
th9 to 10


Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2
elixer will be saved up for lab and spell factory upgrade
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen

Not bad.... I've been working on my TH8 games mostly. My rushed TH5 is just about ready for its brief visit to TH6; I've been working through defenses and walls as time permits. All that remains are the three barracks and two air bombs. I have three archer towers finishing up in the next couple of hours and I already farmed the elixir for the barracks, so I'll flip all three of those in when the ATs wrap. Tomorrow, a fourth builder frees up, so I'll start the TH6 upgrade then. Finish up the walls, lightning upgrade in the lab, and stow some resource for the new builds....

I just rushed one of my other games to TH7; same pattern as I'll use on this TH5. As always, all 5 builders and lab are active. Two of my TH8 games are overdue for the jump to TH9, but I need to get their walls up to level 7 first; I'm not fond of the idea of going to TH9 with any less than all purple walls.

The upgrade is so close I can taste it... 7 days left and declining fast. Farming has been great lately... new strategy I pulled off of a defense. 3 healers, 147 gobs, 15 wallbreakers, 3 rage, 1 jump, 2 poison (send in queen with healers and have her core toward the dark elixer with the wallbreakers, if she gets to low of health put in rage on healers or use ability. Once mortars target her send in goblins toward storages and mines to clean up what the queen misses. Toward the beginning of the attack if u have a king than use it as a coring mechanism and have it take out some outside buildings. MAKE SURE THE HEALERS DONT LOCK ON THE KING!!!) If I can use this strat and get loads of loot with lvl 4 gobs and a lvl 8 queen it will most likely work at th10 when I have a lvl 10 queen and lvl 5 gobs. I am at 42k dark and will hopefully upgrade the queen by the end of today. (need 45k)

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl 4--> lvl 5
6 spring traps lvl 1-->2

Things upgrading now

th9 --> th10
goblins 4-->5

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2 :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for lab and spell factory upgrade
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen

Nice topic OP.
I think rushing only means to reach last th with max offense and walls as fast as possible. Now it is th11. Defense is not so important to take to the account.
So reaching th5 fast is not so important.
the bottleneck of the game for rushing is reaching 30/30 heroes in th9. because 20 levels of king + 30 levels of queen = 50 is not easy.
So in my idea buying 5 builders with gems or gemming early game upgrades is not important because it will not help you to finish 50 levels of heroes in th9 soon.
to reach 30/30 heroes you should max offense + walls every th and upgrade to the next one.
A good farmer can reach max walls before or at the same time of max hero for that th. so in th8 you only have 30-40 days.
I recommend to skip th8 if you dont war.
good luck

My TH5 game is now nearly maxed. I still had two troop updates to run, one level of walls, and one level of army camp to upgrade, so I went ahead and started the TH upgrade this morning. Had an hour to kill this afternoon, so I went out and raided the resources to finish off the last upgrades (well...get them started at least). I figured, hey - if SC wanted to give me a gem box, the least I could do was use it to boost my barracks! I've run three or four hours of raiding with boosted barracks while at TH5, generating more than enough resources for all the upgrades. I've just been using equal amounts of goblins, archers, and barbarians for my army (sometimes with a few wallbreakers) and I am down in Silver Leagues (Silver II at the moment). I've found this or a simple gibarch to be very effective, even with a mere 120 troop space.


I won’t be at TH6 for very long, but it’s important to enter TH6 with a well developed game so I can move quickly to TH7 (which is where the real game begins).


Once the upgrade completes, the steps I'll use to rush TH6 are similar to previous steps I've mentioned.


1) Buy all new items - army, resources, defense.


2) Build a new base.


3) Upgrade offensive structures first and begin troop upgrades.


Laboratory
Spell Factory
Army Camps
Barracks


4) Upgrade all remaining items to the same level as their counterparts (so, upgrade them to TH5 max levels).


5) Upgrade resource structures.


As soon as I have my preferred raiding troops upgrade (usually Barbarians, Archers, Giants, and Wallbreakers), all offense is upgraded, and everything is at least at the same level as their existing counterparts (TH5 max), I will start the upgrade to TH7. While it is upgrading, I'll continue to work on getting defensive structures upgraded and raid like a mad man to fill those storages.


End of Day 11:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 5 (UC)
Builder’s Hut X 5


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 9 (Maxed)
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 9 (Maxed)
Gold Mines X 5 - Level 8
Elixir Collectors X 5 - Level 8


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 2 (Maxed)
Army Camps X 3 - Level 4 (UC)
Barracks X 3 - Level 7 (Maxed)
Laboratory X 1 - Level 3 (Maxed)
Barbarians - Level 3 (Maxed)
Archers - Level 3 (Maxed)
Giants - Level 2 (Maxed)
Goblins - Level 3 (Maxed)
Wall-breakers - Level 2 (Maxed)
Balloons - Level 1 (UC)
Lightning spell - Level 1
Spell Factory - Level 1 (Maxed)


Cannon X 3 - Level 6 (Maxed)
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 6 (Maxed)
Wizard Tower X 1 - Level 2 (Maxed)
Mortar X 1 - Level 3 (Maxed)
Air Defense X 1 - Level 2 (UC)
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 2 (Maxed)
Spring Trap X 2 - Level 1 (Maxed)
Bomb X 4 - Level 3 (Maxed)
Walls X 100 - Level 5 (Maxed)

@Noctaire: Wow man, you're going pretty fast, keep it up :)...what army comp were you using to farm btw?

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@Noctaire: Wow man, you're going pretty fast, keep it up :)...what army comp were you using to farm btw?

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I gotta say...loot's been great in Silver league. Even as a TH5 I am finding 150k-200k minimum for every raid and I don'the even have to next very long. At the lower cost of these upgrades, that adds up quick.

My army is one of three - even split among barbarians, archers, goblins (40/40/40), same with 3 wallbreakers, or a gibarch with 3 giants and 3 wallbreakers. I use CC troops every 15 minutes or so to take down a stronger TH6 or hit a younger TH7. I've even found a few dead bases this weekend, both here and on my TH8 games. (I never get dead bases....)

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Nice topic OP.
I think rushing only means to reach last th with max offense and walls as fast as possible. Now it is th11. Defense is not so important to take to the account.
So reaching th5 fast is not so important.
the bottleneck of the game for rushing is reaching 30/30 heroes in th9. because 20 levels of king + 30 levels of queen = 50 is not easy.
So in my idea buying 5 builders with gems or gemming early game upgrades is not important because it will not help you to finish 50 levels of heroes in th9 soon.
to reach 30/30 heroes you should max offense + walls every th and upgrade to the next one.
A good farmer can reach max walls before or at the same time of max hero for that th. so in th8 you only have 30-40 days.
I recommend to skip th8 if you dont war.
good luck

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The way to enlightenment follows many paths. :) I am rushing very strategically, with a focus on offense and building a defense that will at least protect against the average attacker along the way. You're right; the first five TH levels are kinda blase...that'said why I gemmed up to TH5. I find the beginning of the game to be a slow grind to learn how to play and that bores me to tears, so I gem to a point where raiding becomes effective. It's just my personal preference, really. I've done it both ways a few times now. I have two other games I just pushed to TH7 a week or two ago; it took me over three months, but I got them through TH5 on two builders until I finally earned enough free gems to buy the third and fourth builders.

TH9 is definitely a bottleneck and I think that will be REAL clear when I report out on it here. I am working on two, soon to be three, TH9 games right now. The hero grind is just killin' me. I have one up to 15/18, the other at 10/9 (BK/AQ). The 7 day wait is brutal. On my TH11 game, rushed from TH7, I almost have my farming troops where they will be competitive finally and will be doing some serious raiding there soon; nearly everything is mid-leveled now, so I need more resources to uograde.

After some other discussions here, I am considering starting up a defenseless base. It's something I haven't done yet, so....

BTW, for anyone reading and interested, clan tag is in the sig. The game I started this thread for is Clash Maniac.

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After some other discussions here, I am considering starting up a defenseless base. It's something I haven't done yet, so....

BTW, for anyone reading and interested, clan tag is in the sig. The game I started this thread for is Clash Maniac.

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If you would like help on a defenseless feel free to ask... this is where mine is right now... maxed every troop but spells and did not get healers at th6. I still have only a lvl 1 cannon. From now on I might only upgrade gibarch and work my way to th8 as fast as possible. I am also starting a minimax account with my max th3. Ill tell u how that goes.

http://i.imgur.com/f4Vzfrm.png

regarding the sig... I cant read it lol u mind typing it out for me?

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After some other discussions here, I am considering starting up a defenseless base. It's something I haven't done yet, so....

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Yes. defenseless is both fun for war and great for farming.
I have a defenseless th8 myself. offense is near max (bk8 and hogs4)
Its fun to be in a 10v10 war at the bottom and 3* their no2 and no3.
Also many times they could not 3* my base in first attack!.
last war their no3 goes down to 3* me. really amusing.
Farming is very hard so for casuals. they 100% me many times without shield.

6 days away and I have been saving up loot like crazy. I finally got my queen cooking so I am resorting to milking using goblins and jump spells. At about 3.2 mil elixer, 2.4 mil gold and 6k dark (just upgraded queen yesterday). Now that I reached all my upgrade goals I am just saving for lab (elixer), inferno tower (gold), queen lvl 10 (dark), new structures with leftover. (maybe dark elixer drill)

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl 4--> lvl 5
6 spring traps lvl 1-->2

Things upgrading now

th9 --> th10
goblins 4-->5
queen 8-->9

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2 :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for lab and spell factory upgrade
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen

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If you would like help on a defenseless feel free to ask... this is where mine is right now... maxed every troop but spells and did not get healers at th6. I still have only a lvl 1 cannon. From now on I might only upgrade gibarch and work my way to th8 as fast as possible. I am also starting a minimax account with my max th3. Ill tell u how that goes.

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Thanks for the offer. It will be interesting as there is no way I would spend any money on a defenseless base...

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regarding the sig... I cant read it lol u mind typing it out for me?

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PGCGRG0C

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Thanks for the offer. It will be interesting as there is no way I would spend any money on a defenseless base...

PGCGRG0C

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Regarding my defenseless... I spend 0 on it and only have recieved 700k gold grab and 1.8 mil war loot. It was mostly collectors and patients that got me to this point.

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Regarding my defenseless... I spend 0 on it and only have recieved 700k gold grab and 1.8 mil war loot. It was mostly collectors and patients that got me to this point.

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How long did it take?

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How long did it take?

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Um I would say approx 5-7 months... if you attacked a lot on it and got 3-4 builders it could take 1-8 the time... maybe less.

As of now there are 4 days left on the upgrade! It is so close I am starting to get stressed... (yes I know its a game) :facepalm:. My goblins finally finished level 5 so I recently started using them to pick off collectors or town halls for loot. I also incorporated a jump spell with cc troop giants. This can be used as a tank (along with the barb king) to attract mortars in order to core for storages or full inside collectors. When the queen finishes I will go back to my old strat but for now I am forced to use this method. This method has brought me to 4 mil elixer which is enough to upgrade a lvl 8 lab. The gold is a little behind at 3.2 mil but I still have 4 days to get it to 5 mil. The dark elixer is only at 10k but that is expected and when I get my queen back I will begin farming hard for dark again.

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl 4--> lvl 5
6 spring traps lvl 1-->2
goblins 4-->5

Things upgrading now

th9 --> th10
queen 8-->9

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9 :thumbsup:
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2 :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for lab upgrade :thumbsup:
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen (will be late...)

On the list after Th10 finishes

lab 7-8
queen 9-10
inferno 0-1
new defenses
new dark elixer collector

i just made a video on how to go about it witout spending any money and how and what are the best steps to take. its not hard

https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/

Started a new blog to document my journey with a new alt. Probably get a ton of hate for spending USD$10 to buy the extra builders, but who cares

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https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/

Started a new blog to document my journey with a new alt. Probably get a ton of hate for spending USD$10 to buy the extra builders, but who cares

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Have you done a rushing to th11 guide/journal?

If not when do you think you'll start it?

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Have you done a rushing to th11 guide/journal?

If not when do you think you'll start it?

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Too lazy to write a TH11 rushing guide. Besides, there's no solid reason to rush to TH11 unless you have maxed walls or at least one maxed hero. TH10 loot is fantastic right now, my alt is swimming in loot

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I WOULD RUSH TO THIS SO CALLED TH11 to be anle to defend OUR STRONGHOLD from the darkness this MONTH WOW MOVIE

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hey warcraft, have you met "disconnectedfromserver"

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https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/

Started a new blog to document my journey with a new alt. Probably get a ton of hate for spending USD$10 to buy the extra builders, but who cares

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very nice

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https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/

Started a new blog to document my journey with a new alt. Probably get a ton of hate for spending USD$10 to buy the extra builders, but who cares

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Good idea; maybe I'll move this thread into a blog...less hate to deal with....

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Too lazy to write a TH11 rushing guide. Besides, there's no solid reason to rush to TH11 unless you have maxed walls or at least one maxed hero. TH10 loot is fantastic right now, my alt is swimming in loot

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Ahhh, haha.

3 MORE DAYS!!! Been milking some more with the goblins... 15 hours left till queen finishes and I can start de farming again. As of now I am at 4.4 mil elixer, 3.7 mil gold and 13k dark. I just got hit for 400k of each... 97% 2 star (lvl 3 valks of course):facepalm:.

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl 4--> lvl 5
6 spring traps lvl 1-->2
goblins 4-->5

Things upgrading now

th9 --> th10
queen 8-->9

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9 :thumbsup:
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2 :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for lab upgrade :thumbsup:
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen (will be late...)

On the list after Th10 finishes

lab 7-8
queen 9-10
inferno 0-1
other new defenses
new dark elixer collector

TH6 upgrade will finally finish sometime tomorrow. Waiting for upgrades is the one thing I hate about this game; at least I timed this one a little better than the last...I've had the builders and lab working 100%.

In the meantime, I decided to focus some more on my TH8/TH9 games. I've completed probably 150 or more raids across the three TH8 games this week, finishing off all of the spring traps and anything else that remained. One will remain behind to be maxed and stay as my long term TH8 game; the other is now upgrading to TH9 with a smattering of pink walls to upgrade to purple. The third has a lot more walls and troops to upgrade so that one has a few more weeks to go before it can upgrade. I also pulled the trigger on upgrading my TH9 game to TH10. Everything maxed there but heroes and walls, which I will work on later. I'll get it to TH10, add everything new, upgrade it and key troops, them make the jump to TH11. TH10 doesn't seem to hold much value (like most other even numbered THs) so a rush is definitely in order.

I never have placed much emphasis on walls, especially with all the wallbusters/jumpers in this game (EQ and jump spells, WBs, Hogs, GW, and now miners). The ridiculous cost of walls is a major put-off as well; I'd rather put that 3M gold/elixir into something else. I figure there will be time to focus more on walls come end of year when I have everything else maxed out.

As mentioned earlier, I will probably move this to a blog instead of the forum. Getting tired of the toxicity here. I might post weekly summaries on the forum if there's an interest.

Couldn't imagine having that many accounts lol. Cheers dude!

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Couldn't imagine having that many accounts lol. Cheers dude!

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So many things take FOREVER to get done in this game...I was accustomed to playing a couple hours a day or more and couldn't get my fix in with just one game so.... :p

To each their own game....it's taken me 2 1/2 years to get to th9 maxing all the way.

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To each their own game....it's taken me 2 1/2 years to get to th9 maxing all the way.

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Ayep.... You're playing fairly casually though, right?

I don't have the patience for a game that takes that long to get this far; that's why I rush (strategically) and play multiple games. It's also why I typically gem to TH5 on a new game. When I first got into these long-run games a few years back, I moved most of my gaming time into them; so I just expect more engagement than I think they were originally designed to provide.

2 days till the moment of truth. My queen finally finished upgrading so I am back to raiding for dark and gold. (my elixer needs are already satisfiedXD) I hit 4.3 mil gold... 700k to go for inferno... I am up to 4.4 mil elixer... if I get 5 mil I might get the next dark elixer drill aswell. My dark is still behind at 16k but I plan on doing a dark push after I get rid of my other resources to have a smaller attraction to people attacking my base full on.

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl 4--> lvl 5
6 spring traps lvl 1-->2
goblins 4-->5
queen 8-->9

Things upgrading now

th9 --> th10

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9 :thumbsup:
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2 :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for lab upgrade :thumbsup:
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen (will be late...)

On the list after Th10 finishes

lab 7-8
queen 9-10
inferno 0-1
other new defenses
new dark elixer collector

Ok - I am now at TH6! Step 1, as mentioned - buy everything that is new. Right now I have a new mortar, wizard tower, air sweeper, and laboratory being built. The new gold mine and elixir collector are level 1 and I upgraded the 25 new walls to level 4. I also tossed the laboratory into upgrade as well.

I will probably start the TH7 upgrade this weekend; it's a six day upgrade and I should only need about a week to hit the highlights at TH6. As I mentioned earlier, I will only be upgrading offense, and new items to the same level as their counterparts. TH7 is my catch up point where I'll max everything. Then I'll do the same at TH8nthat I am doing at TH6 and jump to TH9.


End of Day 14:

Town Hall X 1 - Level 6
Builder’s Hut X 5


Gold Storage X 2 - Level 9
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 9
Gold Mines X 6 - Level 8, 1 @ L1
Elixir Collectors X 6 - Level 8, 1 @ L1

Clan Castle X 1 - Level 2
Army Camps X 3 - Level 5
Barracks X 3 - Level 7
Laboratory X 1 - Level 3 (UC)
Barbarians - Level 3
Archers - Level 3
Giants - Level 2
Goblins - Level 3
Wall-breakers - Level 2
Balloons - Level 2
Lightning spell - Level 2 (UC)
Spell Factory - Level 1

Cannon X 3 - Level 6
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 6
Wizard Tower X 2 - Level 2, 1 @ L0 (UC)
Mortar X 2 - Level 3, 1 @L0 (UC)
Air Defense X 2 - Level 2, 1 @L0 (UC)
Air Sweeper - Level 0 (UC)
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 2 (Maxed)
Giant Bomb - Level 1
Spring Trap X 4 - Level 1 (Maxed)
Bomb X 4 - Level 3 (Maxed)
Walls X 100 - Level 5 / 25 - Level 4

Http://I.imgur.com/ZwiaXoU.jpg

The first thing my new alt did in th6 was upgrade the th. And I was right, loot sucks in th6. 3 days to th7

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The first thing my new alt did in th6 was upgrade the th. And I was right, loot sucks in th6. 3 days to th7

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LOL. Yeah...it's a passthrough TH; I won't be staying long. I've always had good luck with TH6 loot though; I typically mine Silver leagues for it, primarily with gibarch. I just advanced two other minis to TH7 early last week (my son's games, or so he tells me) with everything but walls maxed and it only took a few weeks to do so. There's really not a lot to do at TH6; that's why I generally skip it.

Right now I have a TH9 going to TH10; two TH8s going to TH9; a TH7 with a BK I am trying to max; another TH8 with walls I am trying to work on (REAL slow that one); and a few other games at various points in TH7 and TH9.

The TH8 I am maxing had a glut of dark elixir so I started running golem/Valkyrie attacks with a two healer mini-bowler walk and 4 EQs. Totally wrecks most TH8s and even cuts through the typical TH9. That said, I'm having great luck with level 1 miners in my TH7 games. I'll probably go that route with the TH6 game a while too.

Added few more pages into my blog. Showing a few days of my progression and the TH4 upgrade guide.

The upgrade guides come from an old blogger/youtuber, who taught newbies how and what to upgrade. I'm doing almost the same thing here with my own flavor.

https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/

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LOL. Yeah...it's a passthrough TH; I won't be staying long. I've always had good luck with TH6 loot though; I typically mine Silver leagues for it, primarily with gibarch. I just advanced two other minis to TH7 early last week (my son's games, or so he tells me) with everything but walls maxed and it only took a few weeks to do so. There's really not a lot to do at TH6; that's why I generally skip it.

Right now I have a TH9 going to TH10; two TH8s going to TH9; a TH7 with a BK I am trying to max; another TH8 with walls I am trying to work on (REAL slow that one); and a few other games at various points in TH7 and TH9.

The TH8 I am maxing had a glut of dark elixir so I started running golem/Valkyrie attacks with a two healer mini-bowler walk and 4 EQs. Totally wrecks most TH8s and even cuts through the typical TH9. That said, I'm having great luck with level 1 miners in my TH7 games. I'll probably go that route with the TH6 game a while too.

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I'm barching with my TH6, not bad, around 150-200k per raid. My new TH10 is raking 200-300k per raid with around the same training time using TH9 troops. So much for loot penalty. My TH6 has a huge benefit in having my TH10 give maxed hogs to thrash weaker bases, so its pretty unfair.

Can't wait till TH7, gonna max barb king asap and push to TH8.

1 Measly day... only 1 until I can finally get to th10! I have been letting my loot sit some because if I gain to much dark i will be hit hard constantly. Once I hit th10 I will start farming my dark for a lvl 10 queen! The dark right now is only at 20.5k... my gold on the other hand just reached 4.9 mil with 423k in the cc! So that is enough for the inferno! Elixer is doing great and I will be able to buy the elixer collector aswell. 5.1 mil elixer with 423k aswell in the cc.

Upgraded things since day 1

minions lvl 4--> lvl 5
6 spring traps lvl 1-->2
goblins 4-->5
queen 8-->9

Things upgrading now

th9 --> th10

Before th10 is completed I plan on doing these things

upgrade queen to 9 :thumbsup:
finishing all of the spring traps to lvl 2 :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for lab upgrade :thumbsup:
elixer will be saved up for dark elixer collector:thumbsup:
gold will be saved up for inferno tower creation:thumbsup:
dark will be saved for lvl 10 queen (will be late...)

On the list after Th10 finishes

save dark for queen
lab 7-8
inferno 0-1
new dark elixer collector
new cannon & archer tower
queen 9-10


CHANGES ABOVE:

-re organized the list of upgrades after th10 finishes
-thumbs up on gold saved for inferno tower
-added elixer saved for new dark elixer collector


COMING SOON:
Donating season for my main is starting soon... will keep you guys up to date on that!!!

(MAYBE) I might put this series in its own thread so i dont clutter in this one... also so it is a little more organized.

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I'm barching with my TH6, not bad, around 150-200k per raid. My new TH10 is raking 200-300k per raid with around the same training time using TH9 troops. So much for loot penalty. My TH6 has a huge benefit in having my TH10 give maxed hogs to thrash weaker bases, so its pretty unfair.

Can't wait till TH7, gonna max barb king asap and push to TH8.

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Yeah...I've been giving mine bowlers and miners.... :p

I continue to work on TH6 in anticipation of the jump to TH7.

1) Everything new has been purchased and most are at TH5 max levels or upgrading now. I have an AD, AS, and WT left. I elected to get the walls all to level 5 early as well.

2) Lab upgrade was completed; Giants are in the hopper right now. I'll do wallbreakers next, then wizards, balloons, and spells.

3) CC and spell factory are upgrading. Aside from the lab, these are key offensive upgrades.

Once the next rounds of upgrades finish, I will start the TH moving to TH7. During those six days, I will continue lab upgrades (spells) and work on resource collectors/storage. Things are a little slower at TH6; it has longer timers to work through. I'll spend about 10 days here though, in all, setting up a good foundation for TH7.

Things I am not upgrading right now - defenses to TH6 levels, walls to level 6, and barracks.

Defenses aren't very important yet, including walls - I carry very little resources in my storages, instead running an hour long, boosted, raiding session to Fund builders when necessary. And trophies are utterly unimportant at this stage.

As to barracks...I have level 7 barracks. This gets me barbarians, archers, goblins, wallbreakers, and Giants...everything I use in my raiding party for TH7 and under. Level 7 barracks are the last, low cost, upgrade; the upgrade to level 8 takes two days and 700K in elixir. That time and those resources are better spent elsewhere.

Next post in a few days....

TH6 was fun, but it is now time to say good-bye and move up to TH7. Since moving to TH6 several days back, I've focused on my offense and getting all new items upgraded to the TH5 standard. This has largely been completed. I bought everything and upgraded it all to the same levels of existing structures. Upgrades to TH6 levels were the lab, spell factory, CC (gotta get them 20 troop units), and army camps.


My daily play time has been maybe as much as 15-20 minutes these last few days; there really aren't any high-ticket items yet, so a few raids throughout the day are usually more than enough. Elixir is always the worst to raid for, especially at the lower TH levels where there are no dark troops to use. I had 4 games I’ve been working on (this one, a TH6; a brand new TH9; a TH8 that just needs to do wall upgrades now; and a relatively new, rushed TH7). Sooo….I decided to have some fun today and just switch between the four games off and on all day running raids. Since all four are either real young or, in the case of the TH8, just has walls left, I had plenty of builders needing something to do. I even threw in a late TH7 game I have that needs one more level on the BK and got him done. Each time I did raids was maybe 20 minutes of time (slow day at the office). Now - here’s the interesting thing....


An unexpected thing happened - loot suddenly became outstanding late afternoon to early evening. Every raid started pulling in at least 150K+ in gold and elixir, many (most) pulled in 250K+ in each. Most bases I saw had 250K/250K/2K (latter being DE for TH7/TH8 bases). So...the raiding madness overpowered me. Three hours later and most of my walls were level 6. Loot has been pretty good lately, but nothing like it was today. I've been going for almost four hours straight now, switching between games.


The TH7 upgrade takes 6 days. I will use that time to upgrade my resource collectors a bit further. When I hit TH7, I'll be using my standard upgrade strategy - buy everything new, build a new base, upgrade offense, upgrade defense, upgrade walls. I'll spend a little more time at TH7, though; this is my catch-up TH, where I essentially turn into a maxer for ONE townhall level.


Loot at TH7 is pretty good (Silver and Gold leagues, both) and the army composition, once upgraded, is fairly capable. This is the first TH level where players really start saving for bigger upgrades and where the time for upgrades to complete are more than a day; that means there is much more loot available to raid. I take advantage of that, and hang out at TH7 for a few weeks or more before pulling the trigger on the TH8 upgrade.


Worth noting - aside from my initial seed gems I bought, I haven’t spent any additional $$$. I’ve been keeping my base clear of debris, catching the occasional gem box, and completing achievements to replenish my gem bank. I picked up the “Sweet Victory” achievement while raiding last night (popped 1250 trophies), and I used 300 of those today boosting barracks and timers.


Here's where we are at the end of my TH6 trip.


End of Day 18:


Town Hall X 1 - Level 6 (UC)
Builder’s Hut X 5




Gold Storage X 2 - Level 10
Elixir Storage X 2 - Level 10
Gold Mines X 6 - 2 @ L9, 3 @ L8, 1 @ L7
Elixir Collectors X 6 - 2 @ L9, 3 @ L8, 1 @ L7


Clan Castle X 1 - Level 3
Army Camps X 3 - Level 6 (UC) X 2)
Barracks X 3 - Level 7
Laboratory X 1 - Level 4
Barbarians - Level 3
Archers - Level 3
Giants - Level 3
Goblins - Level 3
Wall-breakers - Level 3
Balloons - Level 2
Wizards - Level
Lightning spell - Level 3
Healing spell - Level 2 (UC)
Spell Factory - Level 2


Cannon X 3 - Level 6
Archer Tower X 3 - Level 6
Wizard Tower X 2 - Level 2
Mortar X 2 - Level 3
Air Defense X 2 - Level 2
Air Sweeper - Level 1
Air Bomb X 2 - Level 2
Giant Bomb X 1 - Level 1
Spring Trap X 4 - Level 1
Bomb X 4 - Level 3
Walls X 125 - Level 6

I can appreciate a fellow clashers passion when they set a goal. But..... is this thread necessary? Feels like junk mail I get in the mailbox. Gl though......

If im gonna make mine ill put it like this

Feb 27- Day1 start
Day4 builder3
Day30 builder4
Day35 th9 and started nonstop AQ upgrade
Day40 wb5
Day50 barb6
Day60 arch6
Day75 giant6
Day90 heal6
Day98 builder5
?Day107 rage5
?Day110 4x barracks10 and 2x max drill
?Day140 2x dark barracks6 and th10?

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I can appreciate a fellow clashers passion when they set a goal. But..... is this thread necessary? Feels like junk mail I get in the mailbox. Gl though......

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And yet you felt the need to take the time to read AND respond.

Here is what you do - see my name next to my post? Click/tap it and select "View Profile". Next, click, "Add to ignore list".

POOF! No more junk mail.

https://clashguideswithdusk.wordpress.com/

Updated with my TH6 stuff and a brief, spiteful TH6 guide. My own alt is TH7 now, saving enough for BK while working on core offensive upgrades. Not too worried about defense here, bleeding 250k each per defense but gaining the same each raid.

Will update more on TH7 stuff while I'm here and might start TH10 stuff as well, because my first mini is doing very well there

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Just to correct you, a premmie is those things. A rusher is someone like SinOfDusk who you may or may not of heard of.

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I actually agree with Tallas here. His point is fully justified in my book, as he said that people don't see the other side to rushing. It takes full dedication a& commitment. Hours and hours per day of farming, as you would expect to get crushed on defense almost all the time. The only way to make a decent profit is farm like your'e crazy or buy gems. Which for the most part, some players can'r afford to do either. So in a way they get tricked into taking this route, not fully prepared, and inevitably quit because its too hard to catch back up.

I saw SinOfDusk's post already. He did state that he farmed ridiculously everyday, and even bought gems. Now he is a mature TH11.

While it is nice to have your gameplay strategy on display, you should in fact tell people the cost it comes with. That's all Tallas is saying. No need for a squabble. Be nice

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Originally Posted by Khashiff

I actually agree with Tallas here. His point is fully justified in my book, as he said that people don't see the other side to rushing. It takes full dedication a& commitment. Hours and hours per day of farming, as you would expect to get crushed on defense almost all the time. The only way to make a decent profit is farm like your'e crazy or buy gems. Which for the most part, some players can'r afford to do either. So in a way they get tricked into taking this route, not fully prepared, and inevitably quit because its too hard to catch back up.

I saw SinOfDusk's post already. He did state that he farmed ridiculously everyday, and even bought gems. Now he is a mature TH11.

While it is nice to have your gameplay strategy on display, you should in fact tell people the cost it comes with. That's all Tallas is saying. No need for a squabble. Be nice

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I have to admit - I am beyond tired of these kinds of posts.

First and foremost - I ***DO*** include information on how much time I spend on the game each day. It's right there in the posts.

Secondly, I also state multiple times in my posts in this thread and others that rushing is only for players who intend to be regulars on their game. I typically go on to say that the amount of time required will increase as you advance, with TH9 being the point that you need to make a decision to get serious or you won't advance.

Contrary to what Tallas and others might think, rushing to TH9 does NOT require a massive time investment. That's partly the point of this thread. Read it all - I am typically putting in 15-20 minutes a day on this game and it's scattered across the day. I've had three, barracks boosted raiding sessions. That's it - 15-20 minutes a day and it will be TH7 in 3 weeks' time (just a few days left). A month after that and it will be TH9.

SinOfDusk was raiding like a madman at TH9/TH10/TH11. I have 6 active games and don't put in the amount of time he was putting into one, yet, all of my games have advanced rapidly and well. The rusher's game at that level is simply not the same as below that level. SinOfDusk is currently blogging a new game that he is rushing; you will see it is progressing similarly to the one I am journaling here.

If anyone reads my posts and comes away with the belief rushing is for the casual player...well, I don't know what to say. It's there in black and white, stated frequently. But, this belief that rushing takes "full dedication and commitment", "farming like crazy or buying gems"...it's simply not true until you at least hit TH9 and even then you can get away with an hour a day, boost collectors under shields, and run weekend raiding parties for 4-6 hours and do just fine.

BTW - I haven't even spent fifteen minutes on it today; all the builders are busy until tomorrow, as well as the lab.

I think it is more on the psychology factor. Rushing can be done casually, i have a defenseless donator account to prove it. It doesnt really require alot of effort. The problem is, it frustates me to get no shield after they 100% me. However, i can just let them attak my base and ill farm the resources later when upgrades are near complete. It is different from what i really do, though. I still keep my acct active to avoid getting raided when i dont really have to. This is probably what casuals think when they rush. So, they got this wrong mindset, and will not be corrected until they actually experience it themselves.

They just probably hate the idea of losing alot of resources, and they need to experience it to get used to it.

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I think it is more on the psychology factor. Rushing can be done casually, i have a defenseless donator account to prove it. It doesnt really require alot of effort. The problem is, it frustates me to get no shield after they 100% me. However, i can just let them attak my base and ill farm the resources later when upgrades are near complete. It is different from what i really do, though. I still keep my acct active to avoid getting raided when i dont really have to. This is probably what casuals think when they rush. So, they got this wrong mindset, and will not be corrected until they actually experience it themselves.

They just probably hate the idea of losing alot of resources, and they need to experience it to get used to it.

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This I cannot argue. My attitude toward losing resources has changed quite a lot as I advanced through the game. I don't LIKE it, of course, but it doesn't really faze me like it did early in the game, especially since I changed up my strategy and started raiding for what I need to upgrade.

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This I cannot argue. My attitude toward losing resources has changed quite a lot as I advanced through the game. I don't LIKE it, of course, but it doesn't really faze me like it did early in the game, especially since I changed up my strategy and started raiding for what I need to upgrade.

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Definitely this...regardless of whether you rush or not you have to get over this issue or the game will be beyond frustration. And just like you, Noctaire, I have multiple accounts, so I get a daily dose of a smoking village every morning and every evening.

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I think it is more on the psychology factor. Rushing can be done casually, i have a defenseless donator account to prove it. It doesnt really require alot of effort. The problem is, it frustates me to get no shield after they 100% me. However, i can just let them attak my base and ill farm the resources later when upgrades are near complete. It is different from what i really do, though. I still keep my acct active to avoid getting raided when i dont really have to. This is probably what casuals think when they rush. So, they got this wrong mindset, and will not be corrected until they actually experience it themselves.

They just probably hate the idea of losing alot of resources, and they need to experience it to get used to it.

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That's the beauty of rushing. Before TH11 and removal of snipes, hard raiding would allow rushers to excel past maxer peers who farm the same amount. After the removal of snipes, everyone rushed or maxed will be raided as long as you have resources. So rushing made no difference to loot loss but still allowed good progression.

With my casually rushed accounts, I'm forcing shields every time people attack me, and getting much more resources back. Remember, a maxer still loses 200-400k per defense, but a rusher also loses 200-400k and 400k is the max you'll ever lose if you rush to TH10. The difference? Maxers tend to lose collector loot as well as storage loot, while rushers only lose storage loot allowing collectors to recoup losses.

I admit, I played like a madman before, but that's certainly not a pre-requisite for rushing. I've rushed accounts progressing even with <5 attacks per day on average, but you want real progress, rushed or not, you'll need to really put in effort. Rushers don't need extra effort to maintain accounts and loot, because there is a loot cap. But if you're defenseless, that's another beast altogether

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Definitely this...regardless of whether you rush or not you have to get over this issue or the game will be beyond frustration. And just like you, Noctaire, I have multiple accounts, so I get a daily dose of a smoking village every morning and every evening.

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LOL. It takes me 30 to 45 minutes to go through my morning routine. I hit about ten of my active games, resetting traps and requesting CC troops, maybe running a single raid. I do the same each night just before turning in for the night. Periodically, I hit the inactive games (maxed TH7s we use for war) to clean them up; I don't even look at the attack logs most of the time.

I lose plenty. :)

I think having multiple games gives us a different perspective as well.

Well guess I can't argue with that. The posts you have made here is actually hard to argue with. Although I am no rusher by any means, if I had to make a 2nd account I would try it out. I also kinda like seeing your progression as a rusher lol , so keep it up :thumbsup:

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This I cannot argue. My attitude toward losing resources has changed quite a lot as I advanced through the game. I don't LIKE it, of course, but it doesn't really faze me like it did early in the game, especially since I changed up my strategy and started raiding for what I need to upgrade.

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Before I started playing and the rest of my family was, I said I would never ever play because I would get too mad at people stealing my stuff all the time! Well here I am, sucked in completely with 2 accounts now, and more addicted than the rest of the family! Surprisingly to me, I could really care less about getting raided. I raid others for so much more than they take from me, I rarely even look to see what they got. It just really doesn't effect my game play in the slightest. My 5 builders are always busy on both, and the lab is going so no reason to muss about it. Now I am not a rusher, but I find it a very intriguing way to play. May be getting time to start a third :smirk:

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That's the beauty of rushing. Before TH11 and removal of snipes, hard raiding would allow rushers to excel past maxer peers who farm the same amount. After the removal of snipes, everyone rushed or maxed will be raided as long as you have resources. So rushing made no difference to loot loss but still allowed good progression.

With my casually rushed accounts, I'm forcing shields every time people attack me, and getting much more resources back. Remember, a maxer still loses 200-400k per defense, but a rusher also loses 200-400k and 400k is the max you'll ever lose if you rush to TH10. The difference? Maxers tend to lose collector loot as well as storage loot, while rushers only lose storage loot allowing collectors to recoup losses.

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Ayep - agreed.

There's a lot to be said for the mentality of attackers. The average player will avoid a village with high level walls, inferno towers, x-bows, high level wizard towers, and so forth. These players are looking for something relatively quick and easy; they go out raiding with a tier 1, maybe tier 2, army and just aren't suited to taking down stronger bases. They often try to bite off more they can chew with the rushed base because they do a snap analysis; "Oh, he has pink walls so he must be an easy take down". Next thing they know, they're walking away with little to nothing and the rushed player has a 12 hour shield.

Likewise, those maxers who feel secure in their base because a simple barch/gibarch isn't getting through become targets for more aggressive players who are experienced raiders and go out with much stronger armies. I have several maxed TH7 games and will soon have a fully maxed TH8 (just working on the walls now). I've noticed a difference in the types of attackers that hit these bases and the armies they use.

Rushers also tend to be a bit more active than maxers, so collectors are usually empty or have less in them than the typical maxer.

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I admit, I played like a madman before, but that's certainly not a pre-requisite for rushing. I've rushed accounts progressing even with <5 attacks per day on average, but you want real progress, rushed or not, you'll need to really put in effort. Rushers don't need extra effort to maintain accounts and loot, because there is a loot cap. But if you're defenseless, that's another beast altogether

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This is kind of my point; you don't have to put in countless hours on a rushed game just because you rushed. I'll have this game to TH9 in another month; all the while putting in 15-20 minutes a day (4 or 5 attacks). Each time I go into the game during the day, I clear collectors, reset traps, request troops, start a new army cooking, and run a quick raid. This doesn't take but 3-5 minutes each time. I often spend more time hitting next than everything else combined. This will continue right up to the day I flip to TH9. At THAT point, I will shift gears and there will be a couple of hours raiding on the weekends added to the mix. All of the upgrades I'll be running will be low cost upgrades, so my goal is really just to keep the builders and lab busy. After another month or so, I'll have most structures upgraded to the point that I have some expensive upgrades to do. This is when the time investment will really kick in and I will have to put in 5 or 6 hours a week if I want to advance at an even pace. If I want to advance more rapidly, or do the hero grind...well, more time investment. Walls are always a tomorrow thing for me, so I'm not going to spend a whole lot of time working on them; so long as they are level 7 (purple) at TH9, they're fine.

The same is the case for the maxer - the faster they want to progress, the more time they need to invest. The only difference...a maxer's game falls victim to the clock (lab times, for example) whereas the rusher always has something to do. Other than that, there's no real difference in required time investment.

Defenseless...that one I have no experience with. I've considered starting one, just to play with it, but it does sound like there's a lot of time involved to make it worthwhile.