CLOUDS after update - The one & only thread

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Originally Posted by CaosDenmark

They could just match on Leagues, and then calculate the cups depending on strength (defensive strength and offensive strength combined together)
This way you can match all in that league (Like Titan or Champ or even bronze) and they could combine Champ, Titan and Legend in one pool if they need to.

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Defensive strength can be gauged by defensive points. Like lvl 11 wall = 20 points. Eagle = 2000 points. Because this is all programming at the end of the day.

A poor new th11 with max th10 walls with eagle in upgrading can be matched with top guy in the world? Bloody that guy is trying to build and is in different league for different reason. lol.

Well yes if there is no other way then this idea is good but there is a way, the old way!

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Originally Posted by HowIRoll

The game ended at TH10... TH11 is practically an abomination at this point.

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I agree, sure !

Who's still paying folks to play like the 90th most popular game in the world? I want to sign up

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Originally Posted by bouges

Idk, pushing should be rewarded. What better way to reward those in higher leagues and cut down on clouds than moving some of the dead and inactive bases to those higher leagues to give more targets for pushers? I can't remember for sure, but I believe that technically SC can delete any base that has been inactive for a certain amount of time (90 days? 180 days?), so instead of deleting an account it seems reasonable that SC can take control of the account and use the bases as they see fit. Speculations abound that SC "hides" inactives anyhow, may as well use them to make the game better?

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Yes Supercell can delete an account, but he does not choose to... where they go? We don't know. How do I know? Because when I started my clan, I searched for similar names... there were 3 that showed up which are inactive with only 1 member. Now my clan is 5 months old level 4 close to level 5. I do ran the search for my clan name and those 3 inactive clan with 1 inactive member had not been deleted since I started my clan... which made me conclude that Supercell does not delete dead or inactive bases.

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It's pretty simple, there is a cloud problem because not enough people are up there, and the way to fix this is to compact it so that there is one legend and 1 Titan. They created this by making multiple leagues up top without the players to fill it. I know people would scream bloody murder, but it would give them more to hit, in the correct trophy range and fix clouds as much as they can be fixed.
supercell is doing everything they can to get people to push into a bad system. Most don't want to push, and as they have made multiple changes to get people up there, the answer by the majority is "No".
So just narrow the leagues that never should have been expanded that big in the first place.
I am sick of the entitlement threads of th11s wanting to hit any th11 in any league. The people who say all should be at the top so they have something to hit- but are unwilling to accept any change at all at the top. There are many reasons why people don't want to be up there, so just make the space up there small enough for those who want to be there. ironiclly, I bet this will make people also go higher as it won't seem like such a pain.

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Originally Posted by Freyja1

So just narrow the leagues that never should have been expanded that big in the first place.

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Sounds a good idea to me.

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Originally Posted by Freyja1

It's pretty simple, there is a cloud problem because not enough people are up there....

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Wrong. And I'm going to continue to point out this misconception until everyone gets it.

There are clouds because the average Legends and high Titans player attacks more than they defend.

If I have a system where everyone drops a coin in a bucket and takes 3 coins from same said bucket. Adding a billion more people doing the same does nothing to solve the shortage.

There are only a handful of solutions...

- Add more bases that DON'T attack other high league bases and diminish the pool -- whether this be clones, dead bases bumped up in leagues, champs players getting hit by Legends that they will never be matched to, or whatever solution to add bases

- Decrease the number of attacks a player can do -- terrible idea, but a solution nonetheless

- Increase the number of times bases have to defend -- via revenge through VG, shortened VG/Shield, or higher penalties for attacking through shield/VG


And that's just the clouds issue. There is still a big issue with defensive losses post update being 3 times that of an average win. Thus, to stay in Legends, every player MUST attack 3 times for every defend.

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Originally Posted by Adevati;7332988[B

]Wrong.[/B] And I'm going to continue to point out this misconception until everyone gets it.

There are clouds because the average Legends and high Titans player attacks more than they defend.

If I have a system where everyone drops a coin in a bucket and takes 3 coins from same said bucket. Adding a billion more people doing the same does nothing to solve the shortage.

There are only a handful of solutions...

- Add more bases that DON'T attack other high league bases and diminish the pool -- whether this be clones, dead bases bumped up in leagues, champs players getting hit by Legends that they will never be matched to, or whatever solution to add bases

- Decrease the number of attacks a player can do -- terrible idea, but a solution nonetheless

- Increase the number of times bases have to defend -- via revenge through VG, shortened VG/Shield, or higher penalties for attacking through shield/VG


And that's just the clouds issue. There is still a big issue with defensive losses post update being 3 times that of an average win. Thus, to stay in Legends, every player MUST attack 3 times for every defend.

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i agree with you, those who are saying that clouds are heavy because there not much people up in legend, they have never been in legend themselves lol;
anyway what you said is true but also SC could implement the same concept they are using in Clash Royale (2 players searching fo bases can attack each other), the winner get cups...

and also this thread needs to be bump

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Originally Posted by tonyleb74

i agree with you, those who are saying that clouds are heavy because there not much people up in legend, they have never been in legend themselves lol;
anyway what you said is true but also SC could implement the same concept they are using in Clash Royale (2 players searching fo bases can attack each other), the winner get cups...

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I like your idea, it would solve all problems. Searching @ 5100+ cups atm