New dark-troop: The Dark Mosqito?

Thx again mate!

I wrote to Stevo, and re responded almost immediately. He didn't have the time to make something right now, but would probably come back to the task, if the tread survives and people keeps the interest for the troop.
- No wonder i guess. He's a busy man :)

If you could give it a polish with the statistics and figures, i'll take a look at the offensive- and defensive stuff.
What do you think about the idea of it sucking dark from heroes in defence? (At normal DPS for fairness sake i guess?)

I spoke to some of my fellow players, and they agreed that "we" need a "farming troop". At the moment i guess that most DE-farming is made either on dead bases or by using queen-walk.
So i feel it fair to say, that there might be potential in such a troop...

Therefore - and again - i'm so grateful for all the help!

Best!

Jais (DK)

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Originally Posted by JaisDK

Thx again mate!

I wrote to Stevo, and re responded almost immediately. He didn't have the time to make something right now, but would probably come back to the task, if the tread survives and people keeps the interest for the troop.
- No wonder i guess. He's a busy man :)

If you could give it a polish with the statistics and figures, i'll take a look at the offensive- and defensive stuff.
What do you think about the idea of it sucking dark from heroes in defence? (At normal DPS for fairness sake i guess?)

I spoke to some of my fellow players, and they agreed that "we" need a "farming troop". At the moment i guess that most DE-farming is made either on dead bases or by using queen-walk.
So i feel it fair to say, that there might be potential in such a troop...

Therefore - and again - i'm so grateful for all the help!

Best!

Jais (DK)

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I'll get to work on your statistics right away.
I'm sure Stevo is working on the idea, as it only took him 24hours to complete mine.

I was about to say no to the idea of this troop sucking dark elixer from the heros, (It IS a Mosquito anyhow. :smirk:) But I was thinking that would be a little too much for this troop. Instead of taking dark elixer away, how about they do more damage against them. I'm not saying we make the royals their favourite targets, but I think people would like to see a farming troop have more use than resources alone.

Of course, the mosquito would target resources, but if they get close enough to the king or queen they would target them next, dealing more damage. (Will work on statistics to see how much they should do).

I have statistics ready. I think this troop would be best with 2 levels, the reason I say this is because I think the Attack Speed should be almost never-ending. If you don't know what I mean by this, I mean giving the Mosquito an attack speed of 0.128(Inferno Tower and X-Bow attack speed) It's a Mosquito, so it will be sucking resources away rather than snatching a little bit at a time.

The Mosquito will deal three times more damage to Heroes as well as slowing their attack speed by 10-15% from levels 1-2.

Statistics:

Level 1
DPS- 45
HP- 755
Attack Speed Reduce: 10%(ASR)
Training Cost: 39

Level 2
DPS- 60
HP- 842
Attack Speed Reduce: 15%
Training Cost: 46

Attack Type: Ground and Air
Housing Space: 3
Training Time: 4 Minutes
Movement Speed: 20
Attack Speed: 0.128
Range: 2.5 tiles

Preferred Target: Resources x2 and Heroes x3

Description: A Pesky foe, to say the least, the Mosquito is a decendant from the sky, snatching resources in the blink of an eye! Even your heroes will have trouble, as this creature will drain their strength!

Let me know if you want me to make my own thread with all of these details, to make it easier for you. Of course, all credit will go to you.

If not, just put down all these statistics and description. :)

I have a whole paper full of army comps, strategies and everything. I can make a solid thread about this idea of yours, I feel with these ideas it would make the troop a lot more useful.
Let me know if you'd like me to make a whole new thread with the same general basis.

This is an excellent idea. I fully support the idea of an air resource targeting troop, and doing extra to heroes is a welcome bonus.

Hi again :)

I've tried to discribe the offensive- and defensive strategys for the mosquito.
The stats seems reasonable and makes the mosquito a troop worth using for all players - not only the farmers i think (which eventually is my own speciality, but i recon that doesn't matter :) )
One thing i considered is that the mosquito in hordes of 11 in the Clan Castle will make queen-walks even harder. Maybe good for the game anyway? (If it "hurts" too much, the healer-inflict on the heroes could go back up to 70%?)Here we go:

Offensive startegy:
The Dark Mosquito will go for everything dark - starting with pumps and storage with double damage. Strategy can either be hordes of mosquitos or they can be used to "clean up" after a well made attack from troops targeting the defences (balloons/ golems/ giants/ hogs).
Due to it's relative high HP, it can sustain continous fire from several defences (but will be vunerable to airdefences). Be carefull not to set them loose close to multi infernos - but they will be quite handy when attacking for dark unprotected by nearby defences.

When attacking with The Dark Mosquito, a good tactic can be to attack in clusters from various directions at the same time. A level 2 mosquito will suck a level 6 dark storage empty in just under 27 seconds, so reaching the storage with 5 mosqutios will do the job in under 5 seconds - even without rage spell.

After dealing with the storage and the pumps, the mosquitos will go for defending (dark) heroes - if they are still alive.
This ability makes the mosquitos a potent defender in the Clan Castle as well, as it will go directly for the attacking heroes with 3x damage.

Defensive strategy
Defending against The Dark Mosquito requires the dark buildings (storage and pumps) to be in the near middle of a well defended base. The flight time of the troop makes it vunerable to both airdefences, archers- and wizard-towers and infernos.
If you have a lot of dark elixir in your storages, a way of defending can be to booby-trap the storage with numerous air bombs, but as the mosquito will survive 2-3 airbombs, it is very difficult both defending the storage and all pumps.

Setting up a well adjusted defence to trap the mosquitos in a combination of cross-fire and traps will allow you to keep your precious dark elixir for a while.

While flying in to suck up elixir, the mosquito will be targeted by all avalible airdefences within reach, and will therefore be exposed to a lot of fire. A way of defending will be to set up the defences, so that 3 or more allways can hit no matter the attack path or angle.

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Does that sound resonable? I feel we're getting somewhere with the idea... And that it is good XD

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Originally Posted by JaisDK

Hi again :)

I've tried to discribe the offensive- and defensive strategys for the mosquito.
The stats seems reasonable and makes the mosquito a troop worth using for all players - not only the farmers i think (which eventually is my own speciality, but i recon that doesn't matter :) )
One thing i considered is that the mosquito in hordes of 11 in the Clan Castle will make queen-walks even harder. Maybe good for the game anyway? (If it "hurts" too much, the healer-inflict on the heroes could go back up to 70%?)Here we go:

Offensive startegy:
The Dark Mosquito will go for everything dark - starting with pumps and storage with double damage. Strategy can either be hordes of mosquitos or they can be used to "clean up" after a well made attack from troops targeting the defences (balloons/ golems/ giants/ hogs).
Due to it's relative high HP, it can sustain continous fire from several defences (but will be vunerable to airdefences). Be carefull not to set them loose close to multi infernos - but they will be quite handy when attacking for dark unprotected by nearby defences.

When attacking with The Dark Mosquito, a good tactic can be to attack in clusters from various directions at the same time. A level 2 mosquito will suck a level 6 dark storage empty in just under 27 seconds, so reaching the storage with 5 mosqutios will do the job in under 5 seconds - even without rage spell.

After dealing with the storage and the pumps, the mosquitos will go for defending (dark) heroes - if they are still alive.
This ability makes the mosquitos a potent defender in the Clan Castle as well, as it will go directly for the attacking heroes with 3x damage.

Defensive strategy
Defending against The Dark Mosquito requires the dark buildings (storage and pumps) to be in the near middle of a well defended base. The flight time of the troop makes it vunerable to both airdefences, archers- and wizard-towers and infernos.
If you have a lot of dark elixir in your storages, a way of defending can be to booby-trap the storage with numerous air bombs, but as the mosquito will survive 2-3 airbombs, it is very difficult both defending the storage and all pumps.

Setting up a well adjusted defence to trap the mosquitos in a combination of cross-fire and traps will allow you to keep your precious dark elixir for a while.

While flying in to suck up elixir, the mosquito will be targeted by all avalible airdefences within reach, and will therefore be exposed to a lot of fire. A way of defending will be to set up the defences, so that 3 or more allways can hit no matter the attack path or angle.

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Does that sound resonable? I feel we're getting somewhere with the idea... And that it is good XD

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I actually didn't think about the ASR with 11 mosquitos in a clan castle... That could cause some serious trouble for a queen walk. The good news is, is that the mosquitos ability to reduce attack speed only affects heroes, so people would need bring a few more troops with the queen to deal with them.

Keep in mind that people will want to bring this troop with more offensive troops.
Don't worry about Air bombs, instead of killing them right away, they'll still bring their HP down enough to make it easier for defenses.

As for defense I was thinking the same thing: Keeping traps close to storages or collectors.

Don't worry about how much time it takes for a few Mosquitos to take down a storage. Their job is to specifically target resources, with the added time description it would make people skeptical of the troop.

About what it targets, I don't think it's a good idea to have it target Dark elixer first. The reason I say this is because it would be more difficult to use, and it just doesn't need to be so specific for a resource troop, especially if it's in the air.

You're right about this troop being able to be used by all players, not just TH10's and 11's, but available for all TH's as its housing space suits it. May have to up it, along with a small decrease in HP.

The way I feel this troop would work best is by specifically targeting resource structures. BUT, if it get's close enough to one of your heroes, they'll 're-target and chase them to 'drain their their strength' ;)

Again, I have an organised thread ready to post, let me know if you want me to put it up. (No disrespect) but it looks to me like you haven't made a troop idea thread before.

I'll be able to add the picture of the troop if Stevo finishes it, and organise all the statistics underneath.
If you want an example, take a look at my troop idea in my signature.

You're not the first to suggest an air troop that targets resources, but a Mosquito concept really caught my eye and opened up ideas and possibilities. This idea would work well in an organised thread, so just give the word if you want me to post an intricate thread. :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

Again, I have an organised thread ready to post, let me know if you want me to put it up. (No disrespect) but it looks to me like you haven't made a troop idea thread before.

I'll be able to add the picture of the troop if Stevo finishes it, and organise all the statistics underneath.
If you want an example, take a look at my troop idea in my signature.

You're not the first to suggest an air troop that targets resources, but a Mosquito concept really caught my eye and opened up ideas and possibilities. This idea would work well in an organised thread, so just give the word if you want me to post an intricate thread. :thumbsup:

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By all means! Feel free to do so! Any idea needs a organized concept to become reality!
So if you could make a new thread - with the proper setup, it will be a great help!
- Then we'll continue/ take it from there?

Then let's go on from there! I wrote to Iain as well. He's also into graphics, as i see it :)

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Originally Posted by JaisDK

By all means! Feel free to do so! Any idea needs a organized concept to become reality!
So if you could make a new thread - with the proper setup, it will be a great help!
- Then we'll continue/ take it from there?

Then let's go on from there! I wrote to Iain as well. He's also into graphics, as i see it :)

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Alrighty, I'll get to work on it as soon as I can. Whenever you receive your concept art, private message me or have them private message me so I can implement the picture.