Stop the Hoppers

One thing I hate as a clan leader is "hoppers" coming in requesting, my clan donating to them and then leaving so I think there should be either..

1. Time Limit
A player must stay in a clan for a minimum amount of time such as 1 hr or 1 day

or....

2. Clan Player History
A player has a history of what clan's they have been in and for how long so this might stop clan members from donating if they know that they don't stay around for long

or.....

3. A membership fee
There should be a membership fee option for entering a clan depending on what level the clan is.

I think that these ideas could significantly reduce the amount of "hoppers"

sounds like a good idea.. or those people that join for war and leave..

No changes are needed...Good leaders and Co's all know how to handle hoppers. Have clan rules, enforce them, stick to them.

This rarely happens to me. I always scout them before letting them in. More than likely a hopper will have barely any war stars, a rushed base, and terrible farming numbers. They always get an instant rejection.

We never donates to new members that requests right away or begs for hogs or Pekka or whatever. They are usually just after backup for war and leaves as soon as they get them. I kick them right away instead

membership fee? seriously?

if a guy joins and wants a dragon or bowler the second he joins, there are several options

1. give it to him
2. give him wb and goblins
3. kick him

don't let it bother you. I think it is hilarious.

I love trying to predict a hopper - we have code names for our predictions.

Now, we are an established clan but even then we have had two players war hop on us that have been in clan several weeks or more. It is frustrating but it is part of the game. Like your point guard tearing an ACL... not really something you plan on.

But it is part of the game.

Find a way to enjoy the hopper.

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Originally Posted by LordJack1993

One thing I hate as a clan leader is "hoppers" coming in requesting, my clan donating to them and then leaving so I think there should be either..

1. Time Limit
A player must stay in a clan for a minimum amount of time such as 1 hr or 1 day

or....

2. Clan Player History
A player has a history of what clan's they have been in and for how long so this might stop clan members from donating if they know that they don't stay around for long

or.....

3. A membership fee
There should be a membership fee option for entering a clan depending on what level the clan is.

I think that these ideas could significantly reduce the amount of "hoppers"

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1) Forcing someone to stay in a clan against there will - that just sounds wrong at most levels
2) Clan history all for it but this can also lead to judging a book by it's cover rather than giving benefit of the doubt plus are you going to add things like being kicked out or voluntary leaving - either way this could be viewed in bad light and not necessarily the fault of the clanless player who may be legitimately finding a nice clan. Plus those that use req and go clans in between searching for a more permanent clan would suffer no doubt.
3) How much if it's too little then it won't stop the problem it would be just like a nexting fee (ergo a trade of gold for troops) if it's too much people will moan and it could even be used as a gold dumping ground to manipulate resources.

The membership fee is an interesting concept, but there are lots of families of clans where players move back-and-forth with ease, so it seems like it'd create problems for those clans and players. There are a couple things you can do to cut down on your issue, though.

Consider setting your clan to Invite Only or Closed and only accepting players who have applied and been vetted. You can use the forums, a third-party chat app, email, or social media to talk with perspective members before they join your team. Some clans coordinate the time when an accepted new member can join while others give accepted new members a password to join. Picking players for your clan before they join requires much more effort, but it will cut down on hoppers and players who don't fit your team's personality.

Require that new players donate first. If you must allow new members to add themselves into your clan, lay out the rules in your clan description and reiterate them when a new players joins. Make sure all your clan mates understand the rules, so that no one gives troops to a new player who hasn't donated an equal amount first.

if you arent capable of handling who you let in your clan its not SC responsibility.

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Originally Posted by LordJack1993

One thing I hate as a clan leader is "hoppers" coming in requesting, my clan donating to them and then leaving so I think there should be either..

1. Time Limit
A player must stay in a clan for a minimum amount of time such as 1 hr or 1 day

or....

2. Clan Player History
A player has a history of what clan's they have been in and for how long so this might stop clan members from donating if they know that they don't stay around for long

or.....

3. A membership fee
There should be a membership fee option for entering a clan depending on what level the clan is.

I think that these ideas could significantly reduce the amount of "hoppers"

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I nearly fell off my chair laughing at this. A membership fee, really!?

There is a much simpler, easier and more effective way of dealing with this: Implement a rule that people with a donation count under 50 aren't allowed to request troops. Even without this rule, if your leader and co's don't just kick the guys who request immediately upon joining a clan before they've donated themselves, then it's your own fault you're having an issue with this.

That would kill the req and go clans also.
Maybe you're looking at it wrong - donating is free xp for you and your friends + it makes the clan looks really active and hence more attractive to join

I encourage our leaders not to include any new members in the next war. Bench them for a war and see if they stick around. Unfortunately, my clan is more casual than competitive and our leader only enforces this inconsistently. As a result, whenever we include new members in the immediate war after they join, we lose 1-3, crippling the war effort. Sigh...

Requests without a simple hi get ignored, by me anyways.

The worse part is them leaving during a war. They would stay for a couple days, win your confidence and when you include them in war they leave, which leaves the clan at a disadvantage :facepalm:

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Originally Posted by Khashiff

The worse part is them leaving during a war. They would stay for a couple days, win your confidence and when you include them in war they leave, which leaves the clan at a disadvantage :facepalm:

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limit the number of newbs in war or just let them sit out the first war... that usually deals with them. for example if only one newbie is allowed in per war then losing two attacks really isn't that issue. As long as you have 70% core players or more you should be able to deal with this easily enough.

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Originally Posted by Holps

No changes are needed...Good leaders and Co's all know how to handle hoppers. Have clan rules, enforce them, stick to them.

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Words of wisdom right there. It's simple. Have rules and follow them. Clan description states, donate b4 request. When a mate joins the clan, you ask them if they've read the clan description. Familiarize them with the clan rules. If they ask for troops, auto kick. Simple.

I prefer to keep my clan open allowing new members to have a chance, we don't put noobs into our wars. What bothers me is the guy who joins then leaves without any interaction most of the time in less then a minute.

my idea is this, set a timer on clan joins. I.e. When a person leaves a clan they must wait 24 hours before joining a new clan. I know some "sister" clans will not care for this idea but it could be done with carefull planning or some sister clan designation system.

or perhaps a person can not join more then one clan per 24 hrs, thus when a player in a sister clan moves to a new level of that clan the waiting period would not be a factor.



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Originally Posted by SharkyFinn

The membership fee is an interesting concept, but there are lots of families of clans where players move back-and-forth with ease, so it seems like it'd create problems for those clans and players. There are a couple things you can do to cut down on your issue, though.

Consider setting your clan to Invite Only or Closed and only accepting players who have applied and been vetted. You can use the forums, a third-party chat app, email, or social media to talk with perspective members before they join your team. Some clans coordinate the time when an accepted new member can join while others give accepted new members a password to join. Picking players for your clan before they join requires much more effort, but it will cut down on hoppers and players who don't fit your team's personality.

Require that new players donate first. If you must allow new members to add themselves into your clan, lay out the rules in your clan description and reiterate them when a new players joins. Make sure all your clan mates understand the rules, so that no one gives troops to a new player who hasn't donated an equal amount first.

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these are all good things to do, but require a lot of manual work which could better be handled by the game.
if I go the forums or a 3rd party app, that is the same as getting a players clan history.
Requiring a player to donate first, this could be a setting in the game that the leaders can set.

I understand many suggestions can already be done, but why can't the game do these tedious tasks for us?

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Originally Posted by LordJack1993

One thing I hate as a clan leader is "hoppers" coming in requesting, my clan donating to them and then leaving so I think there should be either..

1. Time Limit
A player must stay in a clan for a minimum amount of time such as 1 hr or 1 day

or....

2. Clan Player History
A player has a history of what clan's they have been in and for how long so this might stop clan members from donating if they know that they don't stay around for long

or.....

3. A membership fee
There should be a membership fee option for entering a clan depending on what level the clan is.

I think that these ideas could significantly reduce the amount of "hoppers"

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On way to avoid this is to make sure your clan members, do not donate to new members unless they have at least donated 20 troops themselves.

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Originally Posted by LordJack1993

One thing I hate as a clan leader is "hoppers" coming in requesting, my clan donating to them and then leaving so I think there should be either..

1. Time Limit
A player must stay in a clan for a minimum amount of time such as 1 hr or 1 day

or....

2. Clan Player History
A player has a history of what clan's they have been in and for how long so this might stop clan members from donating if they know that they don't stay around for long

or.....

3. A membership fee
There should be a membership fee option for entering a clan depending on what level the clan is.

I think that these ideas could significantly reduce the amount of "hoppers"

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Hoppers are the reason people in dead clans actually get troops. Also theres nothing wrong or annoying about being generous to other people and getting some more xp at the same time.

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Originally Posted by zoelem

Aliso theres nothing wrong or annoying about being generous to other people and getting some more xp at the same time.

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Actually there is. When someone joins we try to have a conversation. We start talking they pretend to be interested in the clan. The moment they get troops, they say " see you mf'ers" and leave.

We we try to run a clean clan, and kick people for language. Don't care if you disagree with that, but we have a wide range of ages in the clan.

when hoppers join and do this, or worse, it is quite disruptive.

this is an optional setting being requested, don't like it, don't use it.