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March 28th, 2016
Salimyter

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Originally Posted by LynnK2015

Salimyter, if possible, please provide link to your illuminating post because I missed it. Thank you.

If it's not the one in this thread it might be this one?

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...08#post6772208

I'm not sure if I posted about the psychological aspects of the game before that. That post goes a little bit more into how HD cultivates that feeling of "MINE!" from the get go which works in conflict with other systems in the game as well as against basic human nature.

BTW, I'm still disappointed Nick never answered pitchfork's question and it was a new question. I didn't mean to derail it and would've really liked to have seen the answer.
March 28th, 2016
LynnK2015

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Originally Posted by LynnK2015

...Salimyter, if possible, please provide link to your illuminating post because I missed it. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by Salimyter

If it's not the one in this thread it might be this one?

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...08#post6772208

I'm not sure if I posted about the psychological aspects of the game before that. That post goes a little bit more into how HD cultivates that feeling of "MINE!" from the get go which works in conflict with other systems in the game as well as against basic human nature.

Thank you Salimyter for the link. Like LTMP, I was planning to reply to your post but didn't have time that day so I forgot about it. Your insight about the feeling of "Mine" is spot on, IMHO and I'm bookmarking it for future reference.

When we start playing, we are in total control and decide what to grow, how often to grow it, and what to sell in our shops. But the feeling of control is illusory the moment we sell our goods unadvertised as we realize there are several ways players can buy from us against our wishes.

Sadly, I realize there is no expectation of privacy so I must accept that aspect of HD or stop playing because selling goods is an essential part of the game for me. I accept the following unfavorable outcome: When I put some bolts in my shop unadvertised for a hoodmate, an outsider may be watching my shop patiently and buy the bolts before the intended recipient may do so.

I don't like to relinquish control, but I accept it grudgingly for now and will think of ways to overcome your intransigence about this issue, Team Hay Day.

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Originally Posted by Salimyter

BTW, I'm still disappointed Nick never answered pitchfork's question and it was a new question. I didn't mean to derail it and would've really liked to have seen the answer.

Though Nick didn't answer pitchfork's question about the Last Helper Tab, he answered yours about 3 weeks ago:

"We have said it on several occasions - we don't have any plans to change the behaviour of it for now. It is a feature we from time to time revisit but no concrete plans on what we will do, can do, or want to do. Not to mention when. Thus it is on the 'ruled out' list..."

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post6766004

Thank you OP for starting the thread and thank you Mod Squad for your patience and indulgence for allowing the controversial discussion to continue for the past four days.
March 29th, 2016
Salimyter

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Originally Posted by LynnK2015

Though Nick didn't answer pitchfork's question about the Last Helper Tab, he answered yours about 3 weeks ago:

"We have said it on several occasions - we don't have any plans to change the behaviour of it for now. It is a feature we from time to time revisit but no concrete plans on what we will do, can do, or want to do. Not to mention when. Thus it is on the 'ruled out' list..."

http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...=1#post6766004

That wasn't an answer. I followed up that response too which was ignored because it wasn't a "new" question.

It doesn't tell me if the devs are actually happy with how LH is or if they care that it causes a lot of players a lot of distress. Why do they think discouraging players from helping others is a good idea? Why do they think discouraging players from selling products so they don't get raided is a good idea? WHY did they come to the decision to not do anything about LH at all?

And what specifically is it about 2 weeks? Why that timeline? Why can't or won't it be changed?

THAT is what I wanted answered, not "we looked at it and decided not to do anything" which doesn't tell me anything more than a bullet point on the ruled out list does.
March 29th, 2016
SchmittFarm

Since we are talking about the RSS and why it is used in certain ways, why do some people leave a bunch of sold expansion items in their RSS for days, or weeks.... I have seen people that only sell in a small handful of crates, the rest are stale sold items. Is there a reason for this?
March 29th, 2016
Sparkly888

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Originally Posted by SchmittFarm

Since we are talking about the RSS and why it is used in certain ways, why do some people leave a bunch of sold expansion items in their RSS for days, or weeks.... I have seen people that only sell in a small handful of crates, the rest are stale sold items. Is there a reason for this?

Some people do and I'm not sure why but it's just as possible that those greyed out crates of goods were sold only moments before you got there.

I have filled my shop, placed an ad on, say, carrots. And come back moments later and see that everything has sold but the carrots. People might be thinking that I have left those crates there for days or weeks. But I haven't. I generally clear my stand soon after its sold.
March 29th, 2016
GladeMaid

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Originally Posted by SchmittFarm

Since we are talking about the RSS and why it is used in certain ways, why do some people leave a bunch of sold expansion items in their RSS for days, or weeks.... I have seen people that only sell in a small handful of crates, the rest are stale sold items. Is there a reason for this?

It has suggested that they do it so that it looks like they sold a lot of ems, that you just missed buying, in the hope that you will be fooled into following them in the hope that they sell these things often. They then can check your farm out to see if you will be useful to them.

Another suggested reason is on is they do it so farmers who see their RSS will "like" their farm.

Perhaps they just wish to show that they have so many coins, they don't need to collect them from their RSS.

Personally, I think the first suggestion is the most likely.
March 29th, 2016
SchmittFarm

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Originally Posted by GladeMaid

It has suggested that they do it so that it looks like they sold a lot of ems, that you just missed buying, in the hope that you will be fooled into following them in the hope that they sell these things often. They then can check your farm out to see if you will be useful to them.

This is what I thought, I have noted what is there and some crates do stay exactly the same for long periods of time.
Also, they don't seem to post any good stuff in the crates they do change. Both back up your answer.
March 29th, 2016
deegee

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Originally Posted by SchmittFarm

Since we are talking about the RSS and why it is used in certain ways, why do some people leave a bunch of sold expansion items in their RSS for days, or weeks.... I have seen people that only sell in a small handful of crates, the rest are stale sold items. Is there a reason for this?

My theory is they leave these items up as bait to get people to follow them so they have a bigger pool to shop from.
March 29th, 2016
daz258

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Originally Posted by SchmittFarm

Since we are talking about the RSS and why it is used in certain ways, why do some people leave a bunch of sold expansion items in their RSS for days, or weeks.... I have seen people that only sell in a small handful of crates, the rest are stale sold items. Is there a reason for this?

As others have said, it would be some players who sold goods and just haven't collected their coins; I can only think of it as trolling. Making you think you missed out on some goods. Fishing for likes & followers.

I have a couple on my friend list who seem to always do this, I think I might delete them from GameCenter. It's just plain annoying.
March 29th, 2016
snakiddy

The tofu doggers are the worst, IMO. eta: the cloche hatters are right behind!

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