SC please fix the Valks

Ok so for those guys about to post,"Valks are great etc.." please don't unless you're attacking maxed 9's and low 10's with them. If you do, feel free to comment. If you don't then please hold off.
Everyone knows Valks are the least popular unit in COC. There is several reason for that, but I'll not go into them. As a former Valk fan I'd like to give my opinion on them currently. At TH8 and low 9 they were awesome! Against maxed 9, low 10 in war they are garbage.


Problem:
Valkyries, attack at 1.8 APS, but with their constant repositioning it's more like 3.8 APS. Seriously time it of you're skeptical.
They run out in front of any tanks due to their movement speed, but then stand there and die attacking SLOWER than a PEKKA(2.8APS)with the health only slightly higher than a lvl6 giant.


At a whopping 180,000 DE to max they are super expensive. Are they worth it? Well let's compare them to other dark troops at high TH9 level.
Golems, worth it to upgrade to lvl 4? Certainly
Hog, worth it to upgrade to lvl 5? Yes very much so
Witches, worth it to upgrade to lvl 2? Absolutely!
Minion? Sure why not.
Hounds? Yes very much so!
Valks? At 180,000 Dark?????


If SC is dead set against a housing space decrease, how about an attack increase? I propose keeping all their stats exactly the same, just increase attack speed from 1.8 to 1.0. At first this may appear OP, but I assure you with their constant repositioning you'll never get a 1.0 APS. Will most likely be just a hair faster than a pekka as it is supposed to be IMO. I 'benched' my Valks shortly after Mid to High TH9. Recently with my heroes taking dirt naps for 7 days at a clip I tried to use them again on a perfect base for valks. I mean absolutely perfect base. One outter wall. Everything inside smashed together. With back end hogs. Hogs did their job, heroes did their job.. valks.. Epic fail 1 star.... So benched again until they are fixed.

Wait for the next update (still this month), valks are receiving some changes :p

Sneak Peaks might give us a better look on that, probably a new level for them also.

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Originally Posted by gutodh

Wait for the next update (still this month), valks are receiving some changes :p

Sneak Peaks might give us a better look on that, probably a new level for them also.

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I heard only their sound volume was getting lowered, but I do hope you're right.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by MrMechEngin

I heard only their sound volume was getting lowered, but I do hope you're right.:thumbsup:

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I do hope so, a new valk level at TH10 would be nice :)
The changes are, for now, lower hp and higher dps, along with a little rework on AI to do the hits with more often. Hope to see some other changes (lvl cap) on the sneak peaks :p

As a TH11 Valkyrie user, I'll have to say you just need more practice. I don't have many problems, but I know for many people the repositioning can be annoying. Work with them a little bit more, try and get a better feel on them, because I've seen plenty of high TH9's get crushed with Govaho strategies. As for TH10-11, yes, it's a bit more difficult, but still very effective. There is absolutely no way you can ever fail on a perfect base for valks unless: They're underleveled, and/or you neglected healing them. Traps and many defenses focusing on them will just tear them apart if you don't pay attention. I'd encourage you to learn to use them better, but it's up to you whether you want to or not.

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Originally Posted by jaronhudson15

As a TH11 Valkyrie user, I'll have to say you just need more practice. I don't have many problems, but I know for many people the repositioning can be annoying. Work with them a little bit more, try and get a better feel on them, because I've seen plenty of high TH9's get crushed with Govaho strategies. As for TH10-11, yes, it's a bit more difficult, but still very effective. There is absolutely no way you can ever fail on a perfect base for valks unless: They're underleveled, and/or you neglected healing them. Traps and many defenses focusing on them will just tear them apart if you don't pay attention. I'd encourage you to learn to use them better, but it's up to you whether you want to or not.

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Been using Valks for over a year now. I loved them at TH8 and new 9. My Valks are maxed. All my troops are except heroes, queen is 29, king I'm working on. I stopped using them in war against maxed 9's because they just didn't get the job done or other armies were easier. As a near maxed 9, I often get mirrored to rush job 10's and 11's. Against infernos and my lvl 1 freeze is where valks fail horribly. And with their agonizingly slow attack speed and constant repositioning it's nearly impossiable to figure how long they can linger in a certain area against splash DPS. I would love to start using them again, but their slow attack speed is such a handicap I find it super frustrating. As a Valk user yourself, you should know that base selection is even more important than skill with them. It's my belief that their attack speed is flawed and always has been. I believe this is why they are the most unpopular unit in COC. You almost never get the DPS that's listed due to their repositioning. So whenever you figure a base they will always be yet another variable that cannot be figured until its too late. They need an attack speed increase to be a viable unit at higher lvls. I just don't see how anyone can argue against this point. Either that or a ton more HP, but I favor attack speed increase.


The conundrum of course is that hardly anyone uses them because of their flaw, so no one is interested in fixing them.

Why take the time to learn valk attacks when goho and gowipe and pewitwiz and lavaloons completely over shadow any attack using her? I've done dozens of attacks with valks, some were 3 stars. But those other attacks are SO MUCH EASIER! Took me a couple attacks with gowipe to learn how to 3 star 90% of the time. Once you get witches, say goodbye to valks. They will never be used again except for lower war cc donations. It's sad really. Her life is so short lived. She is like a child's new toy that gets played with for a day or two. Then gets tossed away never to be played with again. Truth, her AI sucks. You are absolutely right, she never uses the full extent of her dps because she is constantly moving ahead of her tanks. When she hits a wall? Forget it. She is dead. For most people, what is the point of taking the arduous hours trying to figure out how to 3 star with her when you can just gowipe pretty much without any strategy and still get 3 stars? I've been in over 200 wars. I've seen 3 valk attacks. But she is so great right? Ummm, apparently not. SC, please do yourselves a favor and listen to 99% of the clasher community, buff the valk. Numbers don't lie. I've shared lots of ideas on how to make her more relevant like increasing attack speed 15% after each attack that she is stationary up to 120% faster, then resets when she moves. Will SC buff her? Probably not because these valk trollers like to get on these forum and blast anyone who speaks out about how broken she is. But it's fine. I will continue to use my many other attacks strats to get 3 stars and look back in shame at how awesome the valk could have been, but never was. Goodbye Valkyrie.

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Originally Posted by Cocthinkengine

Why take the time to learn valk attacks when goho and gowipe and pewitwiz and lavaloons completely over shadow any attack using her? I've done dozens of attacks with valks, some were 3 stars. But those other attacks are SO MUCH EASIER! Took me a couple attacks with gowipe to learn how to 3 star 90% of the time. Once you get witches, say goodbye to valks. They will never be used again except for lower war cc donations. It's sad really. Her life is so short lived. She is like a child's new toy that gets played with for a day or two. Then gets tossed away never to be played with again. Truth, her AI sucks. You are absolutely right, she never uses the full extent of her dps because she is constantly moving ahead of her tanks. When she hits a wall? Forget it. She is dead. For most people, what is the point of taking the arduous hours trying to figure out how to 3 star with her when you can just gowipe pretty much without any strategy and still get 3 stars? I've been in over 200 wars. I've seen 3 valk attacks. But she is so great right? Ummm, apparently not. SC, please do yourselves a favor and listen to 99% of the clasher community, buff the valk. Numbers don't lie. I've shared lots of ideas on how to make her more relevant like increasing attack speed 15% after each attack that she is stationary up to 120% faster, then resets when she moves. Will SC buff her? Probably not because these valk trollers like to get on these forum and blast anyone who speaks out about how broken she is. But it's fine. I will continue to use my many other attacks strats to get 3 stars and look back in shame at how awesome the valk could have been, but never was. Goodbye Valkyrie.

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Check Sneek Peeks, she got a buff. Attack speed increase and a dps increase. She lost some HP but that idc about.

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Originally Posted by Cocthinkengine

Why take the time to learn valk attacks when goho and gowipe and pewitwiz and lavaloons completely over shadow any attack using her? I've done dozens of attacks with valks, some were 3 stars. But those other attacks are SO MUCH EASIER! Took me a couple attacks with gowipe to learn how to 3 star 90% of the time. Once you get witches, say goodbye to valks. They will never be used again except for lower war cc donations. It's sad really. Her life is so short lived. She is like a child's new toy that gets played with for a day or two. Then gets tossed away never to be played with again. Truth, her AI sucks. You are absolutely right, she never uses the full extent of her dps because she is constantly moving ahead of her tanks. When she hits a wall? Forget it. She is dead. For most people, what is the point of taking the arduous hours trying to figure out how to 3 star with her when you can just gowipe pretty much without any strategy and still get 3 stars? I've been in over 200 wars. I've seen 3 valk attacks. But she is so great right? Ummm, apparently not. SC, please do yourselves a favor and listen to 99% of the clasher community, buff the valk. Numbers don't lie. I've shared lots of ideas on how to make her more relevant like increasing attack speed 15% after each attack that she is stationary up to 120% faster, then resets when she moves. Will SC buff her? Probably not because these valk trollers like to get on these forum and blast anyone who speaks out about how broken she is. But it's fine. I will continue to use my many other attacks strats to get 3 stars and look back in shame at how awesome the valk could have been, but never was. Goodbye Valkyrie.

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Have you been living under a rock?

SC has posted information about the coming buffs to the Valk: http://forum.supercell.net/showthrea...ch-2016-Update

I don't believe that these changes are needed, but I will happily enjoy them. The truly elite clans have been three starring with valks for some time now. Emphatic Elite has run full wars where every single base was three starred with Valks. I use them nearly every war, and unlike your 90% GOWIPE nonsense, they really can defeat most bases that are well designed and not rushed.

The return of the 3:00 clock will destroy the GOWIPE nonsense.

Good job SC, so far so good on this one