RE: March 2016 update ... Clan War Matchups ...

I am reading about how Supercell will revamp Clan War Matchups and I am concerned 🤔.
Sure, from the point of view of the clans that lose all the time, yes, losing sucks!
Who's fault is that?
Is it Supercell's for being unable to give everybody an "easy" war match?

Oh, I know, how about we make the "non-winning" clans play other "non-winning" clans and they will finally "win", right?
But think about that ... does any sports league do that? No! Why? Because it's not fair to pair Losers with Losers to help them "win" because then ... You are pairing Winners with Winners to help them what? ... LOSE?

Supercell, darling, just like sports, you need to separate skill with the concept of leagues, or "level of play".

Take hockey, for example ...

When you are a kid, you start in "House League". There are the most teams in House League and the level of skill is the lowest. Then, above that, we have "Select". Above that "A". Then "AA". Finally "AAA".

Supercell, promote our clans into "War Clan Leagues", and also throw some gems at clans for being promoted into higher leagues, and this idea makes more sense and is fairer for EVERYBODY!

Your feedback is welcome!

Mikro

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Originally Posted by Mikrojr

I am reading about how Supercell will revamp Clan War Matchups and I am concerned 🤔.
Sure, from the point of view of the clans that lose all the time, yes, losing sucks!
Who's fault is that?
Is it Supercell's for being unable to give everybody an "easy" war match?

Oh, I know, how about we make the "non-winning" clans play other "non-winning" clans and they will finally "win", right?
But think about that ... does any sports league do that? No! Why? Because it's not fair to pair Losers with Losers to help them "win" because then ... You are pairing Winners with Winners to help them what? ... LOSE?

Supercell, darling, just like sports, you need to separate skill with the concept of leagues, or "level of play".

Take hockey, for example ...

When you are a kid, you start in "House League". There are the most teams in House League and the level of skill is the lowest. Then, above that, we have "Select". Above that "A". Then "AA". Finally "AAA".

Supercell, promote our clans into "War Clan Leagues", and also throw some gems at clans for being promoted into higher leagues, and this idea makes more sense and is fairer for EVERYBODY!

Your feedback is welcome!

Mikro

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As time going clans with bad win/lose ratio that win will have better ratio and fight another clan that have better and better ratio that means theyr better, if this clan still go wins the wars this clan will be paired with clans that have even better win ratio,but if they start losing and losing again they will down again and keep up down there. in other word this losers clan can go up too (ofc its slow)
for the idea about war clan leagues, clans progressing with various rythm and changing/adding members in daily basis is a normal thing to do its already take 10++ minutes to find clan that close enough to fight, its not really possible to do. this types of things r suitable in like clashcon that run in short time. But, i dont really think so ingame with these conditions

Because:

1. SC doesn't want people coming uninterested through losing wars = less gem sales
2. Fairer match ups. Those that win more are typically more addicted, so face them against other addicts, and keep the casuals with the casuals.
3. Reduce effectiveness of Bunnies. Bunny vs Bunny, one will lose. :smirk:

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Originally Posted by Jackylucas

As time going clans with bad win/lose ratio that win will have better ratio and fight another clan that have better and better ratio that means theyr better, if this clan still go wins the wars this clan will be paired with clans that have even better win ratio,but if they start losing and losing again they will down again and keep up down there. in other word this losers clan can go up too (ofc its slow)
for the idea about war clan leagues, clans progressing with various rythm and changing/adding members in daily basis is a normal thing to do its already take 10++ minutes to find clan that close enough to fight, its not really possible to do. this types of things r suitable in like clashcon that run in short time. But, i dont really think so ingame with these conditions

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Jacky, you make a good point. Maybe Supercell has thought of this and they will implement the changes the way you propose them. (I.e. Your idea of a "ladder")

I guess my point with the "War Clan Leagues" idea, is to have some indicator in our clan description stating the general level of competency of the clan in WAR. Right now, all Perk level 5 clans look the same. In reality, some Perk level 5 clans never lose, while others do tons of wars and always lose, but both might be currently Perk level 5.

Hmm ... Noting the current war streak is a good idea, but I think there should be more info!!

What do you guys think?

Mikro
Top Chiefs (a perk level 9 clan)

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Originally Posted by btcc1721

Because:

1. SC doesn't want people coming uninterested through losing wars = less gem sales
2. Fairer match ups. Those that win more are typically more addicted, so face them against other addicts, and keep the casuals with the casuals.
3. Reduce effectiveness of Bunnies. Bunny vs Bunny, one will lose. :smirk:

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Bunny vs Bunny actually ends in 100% destruction tie.

ok i see what you mean it does always seem like we always lose ive thought about that sometimes

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Originally Posted by Mikrojr

Jacky, you make a good point. Maybe Supercell has thought of this and they will implement the changes the way you propose them. (I.e. Your idea of a "ladder")

I guess my point with the "War Clan Leagues" idea, is to have some indicator in our clan description stating the general level of competency of the clan in WAR. Right now, all Perk level 5 clans look the same. In reality, some Perk level 5 clans never lose, while others do tons of wars and always lose, but both might be currently Perk level 5.

Hmm ... Noting the current war streak is a good idea, but I think there should be more info!!

What do you guys think?

Mikro
Top Chiefs (a perk level 9 clan)

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Ahhh, i see hahaha, sorry was messed up, hockey made me think about football leagues lol, forgot that league we have ingame :b, but as long there win/loss stats will be added, it and win streak might not be so accurate..., average attacks, destruction precentages, average th lvl, and average stars could be that competency lvl as u said m8 xD

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Originally Posted by btcc1721

Because:

1. SC doesn't want people coming uninterested through losing wars = less gem sales
2. Fairer match ups. Those that win more are typically more addicted, so face them against other addicts, and keep the casuals with the casuals.
3. Reduce effectiveness of Bunnies. Bunny vs Bunny, one will lose. :smirk:

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agree with you... bunnies and modders should be stopped :)