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I believe clash should add a resources market to the clan side so clashers can trade the overflow of elixer for gold with other clan mates, im a th9 and i struggle to keep gold and dark elixer and only use elixer for troops, i believe this would help dampen the struggle, limiting the amount of resources that could be traded per day and vary the amount according to corrisponding townhall level, this is my solution and would love to hear other clashers opinions♥:)
it wouldn't be fair for those with only one account. People with multiple accounts will abuse this option as loot is MUCH easier to obtain at TH7 or TH8. I would simply have my TH8 accounts raid tons of loot and distribute to my TH9, 10 and 11.
Making this a "fair" trade system would solve this issue, only allow trade of same value and not of differing values so you cant "give" someone resources,Quote:
Originally Posted by dkaoboy
EXAMPLE - offer 2 million gold for 2 million elixer, not 2 million gold for nothing lol
If that is what you want, then why not just make it possible to convert one from the other anytime you want. That's pretty much the net effect of what your suggesting. No need to even arrange a trade.Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff01991
This is also a good option and something that should be looked into :)Quote:
Originally Posted by danielealy
Thread like this popped up a week or so ago. I said this there, and I'll say it here:
this would be a huge detriment to the economy! It is a good thing, if someone is overflowing in 1-2 resources! Sorry you can't spend it, but now someone else can raid you for it. Since you don't have any use for said resource, the raid is just adding it to the economy, since it is just sitting in your storages for no reason anyways.
PS- is also hazard a guess and say you're a TH8? Keep giving back to the community, TH9s need your lix!
It could be a huge boost to bring people back to becoming active again though. Think about it....more trading means more people increasing activity. Lets face it...something really has to changeQuote:
Originally Posted by KhalWarAngels
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Originally Posted by KhalWarAngels
I completely understand that and think the idea of limiting the amount traded per day could help with this issue, but that is also a very valid point and probably why a market has never been done before.
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Originally Posted by NastyNewt
It also also leads to less available resources for raiding, which is what's killing the game. Think about it.
how about trade with someone randomly, and you only can use it 1 time per week or limit transfer amount. Plus with successful transfer there will be a % tax.
it will be easy, but what if in that day almost all player e.g: decide to convert elixir to gold, what will happen to elixir loot in the game? Disappear.Quote:
Originally Posted by danielealy
The tax idea could work too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by frizor82
More activity means more loot. A quarter of my clan went dormant because we are adults and its just to hard to find time to raid like they did pre update, but if my near max th 11 can donate resources to help jumpstart someone's desire to get involved again i dont see how it can hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhalWarAngels
yes, cause SC hate when player have to much ᵃᵈᵛᵃᶰᵗᵃᵍᵉQuote:
Originally Posted by Griff01991
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Originally Posted by NastyNewt
This is a very valid point, as you climb up in level you tend to become less acttuve due the build times and cost so this could help with inactivity, every little bit helps
been talk of this for years. just can't happen too much gem spending lost to SC.
So my Idea (going back a few years here) was to simply have a clan BANK that
the clan can move loot into so that other clan members could LOAN loot to other
clan members. No resource conversion just a pooling of loot to help each other
out for upgrades.
Someone gains loot but others lose loot. A loan system where each member
could deposit say 100K of 1 resource a day at most and the bank could hold say
4 million max. (to stop any major abuse)
even that was rejected by SC
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Originally Posted by Groovy
Yea i can understand that point of view :( bugger thats a good idea too
There are points in the growth of bases where certain resources lose utility (no more sinks or less valuable sinks such as maxing unpopular troops).
These points often incentivise people to move up TH levels (to avoid waste). They also mean that the value of gold vs elixir vs dark change depending on the base. When I was a near max TH8, elixir was overflowing and meant nothing to me. As a fresh TH9 it suddenly meant a lot more.
Not saying this is a bad idea but it would need to be cautiously approached to avoid game changing distortions.
Players are a clever bunch. They will find ways to optimise any resource trading opportunity, including creating clans full of bogus bases to trade to themselves to top off resource needs and sink their loot quicker etc.
Definitely worth thinking about though. Also the clan loot pool idea.
Resource trading has been high on SCs ruled out list since the game began but times change. The update which allowed high walls to be purchased with gold or elix removed some of the main arguments against resource trading in my opinion.
No... One of the tricks of this game is resource balance.
If I have more of a resource than I need, I will naturally feed that resource to others.
If you could exchange one resource for another, what's the point of having more than one resource?
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Originally Posted by NastyNewt
No, more activity does not mean more loot. Raiding by itself only moves resources, it does not generate resources.
Only certain things generate more loot:
-Collectors/Mines/Drills
-League Bonus
-Star Bonus
and to a much lesser extent War Loot and Loot Cart
if you raid someone using a 100k lix army, and the loot bonus is only 50k, it doesn't matter how much loot is actually raided. If you use 100k to get 400k, but there's only a 50k league bonus, you are still removing 50k lix from the economy. You just moved 350k.
If you want to have gold and elixir easily convertable from one to another, why have more than 1 type of resource in the first place.
right which is why I asked them about a clan bank which meantQuote:
Originally Posted by TheConfuzed1
to give someone loot means someone else has to lose loot.
it is not trading or conversion which would upset the economy
because you do the exact same thing when you attack a base.
i.e. you get loot by taking loot. There is no way to say convert
elixir to gold because that is what would happen the other way.
to get 100K gold out of bank someone has to deposit 100K gold etc...
and to keep it from being abused limits of how much the bank can hold'
(Clan perks good here) and how much a player can deposit and withdrawn
in a certain amount of time.
of course a step back would be to simply have the clan bank
be a place to store your own loot attack free. So you can save up for big
upgrades. This is where the 5 star bonus would go.
Awesome so I can make 15 dummy accounts move all of the loot they generate into the bank and have my one or two accounts constantly takingQuote:
Originally Posted by Groovy
Because then you're just converting currency, if you trade, that available gold is still in the economy.Quote:
Originally Posted by danielealy
It goes back to the old phrase "to make money you gotta spend money". If more interest is created by donating resources, then that means more people will be raiding, losing shields, and creating opportunities for others. Simple economics really...Quote:
Originally Posted by KhalWarAngels
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Originally Posted by NastyNewt
lol, except this isn't a real life economy. Those people will more than likely be depleting the economy. Any "opportunities" that would be created, would be lost, because people would trade resources to get that big upgrade done, so they will not have to sit with and raidable loot, they go from mediocre loot, to full loot instantaneously, and immediately spend it all.
Would not work.
Maybe eliminate a guard/shield for a certain amount of time based on amounts received. My point of continuing the conversation is that loot is getting scarce and more people are spending less time on the game because of it hence my suggestion to create some new found interest in players.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhalWarAngels
I can personally testify that the game is less fun. I was extremely hardcore having 4 accounts and spending some money on my main account before nearly being maxed at th 11 then focusing on my ungemmed near max th9.
The wait times for armies stink (no i dont want to gibarch in gold 3 i actually want to challenge myself) and to make the push and make it profitable i have to build strong armies with spells. While waiting for these armies i have found myself staying logged off for hours at a time instead of waiting in an empty clan chat due to clan members that are doing the same.
Anyways, my point is this...before saying something would not work i think it first has to be tried out. Not all change is bad although after the big update in December I'm not as inclined to believe that statement as i once was...cheers 🍻 BeerBellyBrawlr
This was ruled out a long time ago, and for good reason.
That's why I vote for a substantial (50-100%) increase in league bonus. This would:
A-help with the cloud problem, as people would have an actual reason to push
B-inject loot into the economy, rather than simply move it around
C-help move the "whales" from silver league, to a proper league
D-make using full war armies actually profitable, in the higher leagues.
That would most definitely reinvigorate play.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhalWarAngels
ruled out please read the sticky, also then there would be no loot to raid, AND people would totally take advantage of that using multiple accountsQuote:
Originally Posted by Griff01991