Let's all agree to disagree.... people are way too toxic on here anymore.

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Originally Posted by RomeoFoxtrot

You may feel that exists for you, that may be what you are experiencing. There is a decent amount of us that are not experiecing that.

If the context of the situation you just mentioned is where the term fanboy was used against you, yes I would consider that toxic. But when someone comes into a post ive made or a thread ive reaponded to, and disregards my conteivution, my honest feedback with a snide "be a real chief" or the like, they are a fanboy by definition. Heck, even SuperCell used that term and set that tone. So Toxic started from the top at this company, and then wondered why their forum turned toxic. Karma.

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Just because they think you're ridiculous it doesn't mean they even like the update. You clearly think too much of yourself.

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Originally Posted by AeroCloud

TH worth a SHIELD was core functionality.

TH Sniping was something SuperCell Introduced by offering league bonuses.

So SuperCell knowing good and well TH's being on the outside of their bases prior to league bonuses, would be direct support of that option.

Now they change the core functionality of removing TH worth a shield.

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i agree.

And to be honest, when i startd this game i thought it was an odd part of the game. But, i adapted, and moved on.Game updates came and went, i adapted and moved on. Troop nerfs came and went, I adapted and moved on. These little things had negligible effect on myself, and our clan. We all still had fun.

But, to remove th sniping, after years, had a profound effect. Its not the same game.It looks like the same game, but the mechanics and the ecosystem are not the same.

TH sniping became a core function of the game. It WAS the game.

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Originally Posted by RomeoFoxtrot

You may feel that exists for you, that may be what you are experiencing. There is a decent amount of us that are not experiecing that.

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Sorry bout the big cut on quote. Regarding 'toxicity', I think a liberal sprinkling of 'man-up' should always be applied, and I do love a good argument.

Regarding bit actually quoted....ok. So, how do you go about changing that experience?
(For the more liberal minded in here, this is in no way a dismissal of Romeo's opinion) how can you improve your game experience, and later your clan's, with minimal change in play habits and style?

It is an online game, and they DO change sometimes. Just not usually in such a sweeping fashion.

So, how do you like to play? Low league, high league, session or raid-train-log off come back in an hour?

Honestly. Unless you were purely a snipe farmer, or defenceless war MM exploiter, the game is only broken if you want it to be.

If you can figure out how to get your fun back in clash, you can spread that through your clan.
I did. Had my suspicions of what would work during the sneak peeks, and shared them. Revised those in early days post-update.

Still have active clan.

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Originally Posted by AeroCloud

TH worth a SHIELD was core functionality.

TH Sniping was something SuperCell Introduced by offering league bonuses.

So SuperCell knowing good and well TH's being on the outside of their bases prior to league bonuses, would be direct support of that option.

Now they change the core functionality of removing TH worth a shield.

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Do you realize, that if everyone had not went the route of TH sniping, then SC may never have removed it?
It got to where TH snipes were the majority of attacks, according to SC, and that there were so few actual full attacks, that SC had to remove it.

While TH sniping was around, I too, had my TH outside. Kicking myself for that now, indeed. every single attack I ever had against me, while TH was outside, was a TH snipe. On ALL my accounts.

Sorry. If it was not so globally abused, TH's would more likely still get shields.
But, the player brought this change on, ourselves.

I agree. I think there has been some valid points made but now it's just such a mess with everyone on all sides so angry everything gets drowned out anyway.

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Originally Posted by BurkeKnight

Right....
Free shields, little loss.
Mindless attacks with just 2-3 barbs, to gain a few cups, and whatever bonus your league got you...

Yep.. That's exactly what all strategy games should be all about. Let's tell SC to go back, and then petition all the other clash games too.

/end sarcasm


And some people, wonder why SC felt the need to remove TH sniping. This right here, shows me why it needed to go.

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There can be compromise. Higher leagues, no TH sniping, lower leagues with newer players it remains.

This is like Professional Baseball telling t-ballers they cant play with the tee anymore. Thats not the way the game is intended to be played, so they ban its use. And drive the Fresh Spawns away, and then wonder why nobody cares to play baseball anymore, and parents and players are upset.

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Originally Posted by BurkeKnight

Right....
Free shields, little loss.
Mindless attacks with just 2-3 barbs, to gain a few cups, and whatever bonus your league got you...

Yep.. That's exactly what all strategy games should be all about. Let's tell SC to go back, and then petition all the other clash games too.

/end sarcasm


And some people, wonder why SC felt the need to remove TH sniping. This right here, shows me why it needed to go.

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Every game has it's exploits. In Halo I can reach places you couldn't imagine because I can throw a grenade, land out it and then hop off of it to a spot most wouldn't think of.

Call of Duty has quickscoping, using the auto-aim feature where you have a the briefest of moments to fire a deadly bullet directly in the middle of your screen without worry of sway or deviation.

Bloons Tower Defense, if you reduce the quality to minimum you can actually fit more defenses in an area than you could on high graphics (idky but it works)

Clash Royale if you place a witch and tombstone in a corner at the same time, the witch will be stuck in the corner endless generating skeletons.


Look every single game has it's exploits. The best players learn to use the exploits to their advantage. TH sniping just so happened to require the least amount of training/knowledge in order to use it. It just so happens that that exploit turned into a huge meta that 80% of players used. So in a sense of majority rule, it was a core mechanic as well an exploit.

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Originally Posted by Dansut

I agree. I think there has been some valid points made but now it's just such a mess with everyone on all sides so angry everything gets drowned out anyway.

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:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by TheRealGinngie

The best players learn to use the exploits to their advantage.

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That line right there.
This is true. But we have all discovered the cost of too many people exploiting the exploit.

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Originally Posted by RomeoFoxtrot

There can be compromise. Higher leagues, no TH sniping, lower leagues with newer players it remains.

This is like Professional Baseball telling t-ballers they cant play with the tee anymore. Thats not the way the game is intended to be played, so they ban its use. And drive the Fresh Spawns away, and then wonder why nobody cares to play baseball anymore, and parents and players are upset.

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Sorry but I'd take a shield over TH snipes anyday lol
Plenty of dead bases in gold below.

Also when do you draw the lineof what is and isn't a high league?