NEW ATTACK. Queen POP LaLoon. Finally and Attack for all TH9's to 3 STAR MAX bases

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June 10th, 2016
nSpider

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Originally Posted by jacknathan1993

You could kill cc wiz by getting them in a corner then dropping a loon on them. They kill it, it falls on them and they die. Uses 1 loon once you get the hang of it as opposed to 20 space worth of wiz.

Will it happen all the time? I don't know...It seems risky.

If my opponent hav max drag in his cc...it's also very tough to kill that drag by only AQ.
June 10th, 2016
castnblast

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Originally Posted by Dexter2000

Look bud,i sawthese replays while i admit its a nice strat,but they dont work on all bases,im a fully maxed th9(including walls and heroes)and most of my clanmates are like me,so our wars are against very strong clans that have bases with superb design,the bases you have shared are mostly common or unmaxed,for a fully maxed base you need high lvl heroes,I suggest you try superqueen+gova(4 healers+1golem in cc+9-13 wizards and wb if needed,spells depend on base)or try gohova (same combo just hogs instead of healers)
This is the best and latest method for 3 staring th9-10-11
Goodluck amigo

Hey pal, I am guessing you have not seen all the replays. By saying its a "nice strat" and doesn't work on all bases I would say I have taken the challenge time and time again to use it on every base. I as well have a fully max account with lvl 30 heroes and I run govaho as well. That attacks works nice for people with high level heroes and troops, but what I have created is an attack that any level th9 can use. We run a hard war clan and I use this attack on top bases as well. I do show bases of all levels and try to provide content that any level player can use. If you had watched the video below you would have seen that I have busted through many max bases with max heroes, and bases that are "meta" sets. As always stick with what strategy works for you, but I would say this attack reigns supreme of all air attacks, and gives players a good way to stay in the 3 star game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZy6JijDHoQ

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Originally Posted by Toothless717

Keep the Vids rolling Blast. I see you also play other attack strategies for TH 9 on your YouTube channel. As some people mentioned this attack isn't for them. It may not be the strongest (Lvl 4 Valks rule), but for someone moving up to TH 9, this attack has allowed me to be successful as a new TH 9, so I am forever grateful. Thanks Bro!

Valks are nice but I see them shredded war after war. I do run multiple types of attacks and provide the full guides for every method at th9. That has been my channel's goal for a long time. The Queen POP attack is just what I have been known for since I wrote the strategy for it, and I am the only channel that features it. I am glad I can provide a strategy for all players to use and be success. I like to help. Keep up the strong work my man!

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Originally Posted by Cleveland33

I get that some people are going to struggle with this attack but I don't see your point. He's shown this against max defenses. I think he has at least one vid with his subaccount taking out a near max 9. He's shown it against popular internet bases and random bases. He only uses the heroes to kill the CC, so range doesn't really matter except maybe they get a few other buildings for cleanup, but his attacks are so quick, cleanup seems moot.

Thank you sir, and you are correct I have multiple videos going against near max Queens and a few against lvl 30 Queens. You just don't see many level 30 Queens out there, but I try to hit them when I find them.

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Originally Posted by nSpider

I made my cc space 30 today and from then I am practicing this strategy. Oh what a great strategy! Loved it....:heart:
At first time I was confused about the perfect kill zone. I was mistiming while deploying the loons and was not getting any stars. Then I took some time, watched your videos again and again, practiced in the friendly battle and realized what is the good timings. I need to keep practicing this strategy. My clanmates are also shocked as I am new in th9, and still able to get 3 star from a well set-up th9 war base. Thank you CnB for this amazing strategy.:D

Some of my clanmates had maxed wiz in their cc. So, I was unable to kill them all with my heroes(BK-10,AQ-2). I just added 5 wiz to kill the cc troops and for clean up. Is there any problem if I take 22 loons instead of 26 loons?

I am glad you found this strategy and you like it. I would say 5 wiz is a bit too much as you can just take even 1 wis with a few archers or barbs to distract.

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Originally Posted by jacknathan1993

You could kill cc wiz by getting them in a corner then dropping a loon on them. They kill it, it falls on them and they die. Uses 1 loon once you get the hang of it as opposed to 20 space worth of wiz.

This is a great idea and how I used to deal with ccs a long time ago. If a player can get it down perfect it works great, but I do see people failing on how to send the loon in a lot and they end up wasting multiple loons trying to get it down. I do also like using a few barbs to distract and a wiz behind them.
June 11th, 2016
Boogcotten

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Originally Posted by Cleveland33

I don't think I have run into a one star with it, but I can see that with the clock running out. For me it really 0 or 3 - and the zeros are most likely me deploying the loons incorrectly.

I struggle to practice it because I don't have enough time to properly lay out the attack. When I can lay it out in advance, I do much better. But it does rely heavily on how and when you lay deploy your loons - don't want them to get to the remaining AD too fast otherwise the hounds don't pop, but get there too late and the Hounds are all dead and the AD starts picking off your loons. For me, one of the things I look for is one AD on or near the exterior - where I know I can drop my loons and they will target the AD from deployment - then I can just watch the hounds' health and deploy when the last one is almost done, knowing my loons will get in.

I have also had much more success on TH9s with the xbows down and lvl 6 ADs - then I can also get away with only taking two hounds and save the room for more Loons. But I don't intend to give up on it anytime soon. Did two ground attacks over the weekend without much success - I hate laying out ground strats.

Yeah thats generally ally where I fail is dropping loons incorrectly. Need to work on better and more consistent deployment. It is a rush to attack up and kill a strong base with this strategy though :) Xbows set to air give me fits now after they were tweaked though. Need a lot more practice.
June 13th, 2016
Cleveland33

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Originally Posted by Boogcotten

Yeah thats generally ally where I fail is dropping loons incorrectly. Need to work on better and more consistent deployment. It is a rush to attack up and kill a strong base with this strategy though :) Xbows set to air give me fits now after they were tweaked though. Need a lot more practice.

Yea my hardest part is actually relying on the pups to kill the AQ - in fact I have been struggling last couple of wars to even have all my hounds pop and I haven't even been taking a hound in the CC (taking six max loons instead) because of the non-popping - but the extra pups would be better against the AQ. Also, I am usually cleaning up lower 9s without max ADs so that has me concerned about taking the max hound. I definitely have to be more patient - not deploying my loons to the last AD until the hound is weakened enough that I know he will pop. But I get nervous and let the loons fly in early.

Since I am the top 9 in war and our other 9s are struggling, I am usually on cleanup - and that keeps me going against non-maxed ADs for the most part. Also I have had a lot of opportunities with the AQ on the edge and able to lure her.
June 14th, 2016
LilPhoenix

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Originally Posted by castnblast

When the big TH11 update took place and players were allowed to donate spells I wanted to think of a new attack that would utilize the spell and make TH9 attacks easy for all players. When I started my TH9 journey hounds were new to the scene and air was supreme, but after many updates air became less effective and guaranteed. I have used, and watched players use shattered LaLoon, Zap/Quake 2 air defenses, and Penta LaLoon attacks, but they are usually base specific. With shattered LaLoon you are required to get to the queen, the cc, and some air defenses and aren't left with a lot of troops on the back end. With penta-LaLoon you are left with 20 or less loons and have 4 air defenses active, and a lot of the time that is just not enough power. With the double Zap/Quake you have zero spells left and cannot always punch through a base.

I wanted a fair mix of what I know works, and a solid strategy that didn't require high heroes to get inside the base, but still left you with and overwhelming amount of loons and spells. That is why I created what I now call the "Queen POP" LaLoon. Now maybe you have seen this before or thought to do it yourself, but with the spell donation available and my clan in war on that day I used my new idea and crushed the first two bases I tried it on.

In war I saw clans were starting to jam their cc's with hounds since a double poison cannot kill a hound so this attack was specifically designed to go against those clans. I decided to test this attack on bases that didn't have a hound. It worked the same if not better. I tested it on common bases, max bases, new bases with a low level TH9 and every time the attack over whelmed the base.

For every attack I brew 2 Lightning, 1 Quake, 2 rages, and 1 haste. Now if I know they have a hound, or other ground attacking only troops, I brew 3 hounds, take 1 MAX hound in the cc, and 26 Loons. If the base C.C. is unknown I drop one loon and take some archers.

Each attack is designed to trap the queen in a kill zone for pups to attack in and loons to land on her and hit her with some splash damage. This picture will illustrate.
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Now with a fresh base and C.C. unknown I start the attack by taking out the first air defense. Then I send in loons at the defenses on that same side so they can destroy the defenses and pull out any troops that attack air troops. If troops come out I lure them with the archers I brought and kill them with my heroes. Of course, if no troops pull I simply start my hound and loon attack.

I always make a triangle kill zone to trap the Queen in. I will send my max hound and another hound at the air defense closest to the queen and the other two hounds at the air defense on the short end of the triangle. I send 3 or so loons at each defense structure and try and take down both air defenses together so that my loons and hounds will flow up towards the remaining air defense and clear a path for the exploding pups to stay under rage and kill the Queen. This gives you 2 rages and a haste to use on your loon path.

The best part of this attack is, that besides possibly killing a dragon in the cc your heroes are not needed and can be used solely for clean up. I have tested this attack against a wide verity of base builds and I always surprised at how well it works out. The sheer power of 25-26 loons with 4 hounds and still three spells vs 3 air defenses and a queen is too much for a base to handle.

I have uploaded quite a few videos of this attack on my channel and will start sharing them here for you.

Here is my first ever "Queen POP" LaLoon run. This attack was rough and unpolished but easily smoked the base. The video gained a lot of attention and made me want to continue to test this attack and share the results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOicWPYaFVs

Next up I came across the popular Diamond Moat base. It had a hound as well so I hit it with the same great results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9UAd1-Uy1U

Last up I wanted to see how well this attack for brand new TH9's. This account has lvl 1 hounds and I wanted to hit a fresh base with an unknown cc. I take out the air defense then take out a few defenses with loons to see if anything pulls from the cc. Nothing pulled which means I am clear to start the attack. Results where the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOxQZFov1pA

I hope this can bring some new ideas to the table that are mixed with a few older ideas as well. This attack has absoluty confirmed my thoughts and even surpasses my expectations every war. I have much more replays to show and will continue to upload.

What are your thoughts and questions?

Find it awesome
June 19th, 2016
castnblast

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Originally Posted by LilPhoenix

Find it awesome

Thank you sir! I find this is the most well rounded TH9 attack I have ever used. The success percent for myself is nearly perfect since the new update. I would jump on this attack now since it is not widely known and I do not see an air nerf coming any time soon.
June 20th, 2016
Noboby

I will use this strategy whenever possible because it will have very high chance of getting 3 stars. The factors that will deter me
from using this strategies are :

- CC not easy to lure
- Air sweepers are in the directions of my attack
- X-bows are set to ground and air

so currently still waiting for your GOVAHO strategy :o
June 20th, 2016
TommyTx

Great vids, and great attack. I think part of the reason I struggle is that I am the highest 9 in my family based clan. Nobody else has even level 2 hounds. So when I get a cc hound donation, it is level 2. I have tried again and again with 4 level 2 hounds and 26 loons, but I one star almost every time. Last war it was a spread out base with concentration of defenses at corners, hound in the castle, xbows down, level 10 queen. My DSF is upgrading but I thought I might get away with the attack not using the haste. One star was the result. Pretty sure this attack needs every component to work. Haste, 2 rage, 2 lights and an EQ, correct timing, easily dispatched or hound in CC. I will revisit this attack when I have someone to give me a higher level hound and all spells at my disposal. I don't want to give up on it because I see its potential.
June 20th, 2016
RoCoStr

Yo CnB, I haven't given up on this attack and I came to a new conclusion: best pushing strategy ever! I consistently two star, more regularly three star. And hence gaining trophies on the fly.

Something else is strange though: I'm having more success with spamming my loons in a line behind the hounds, instead of surgical placement all around. I keep learning and will keep posting my findings.

Again: thanks for bringing back Air Superiority!
June 20th, 2016
castnblast

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Originally Posted by Noboby

I will use this strategy whenever possible because it will have very high chance of getting 3 stars. The factors that will deter me
from using this strategies are :

- CC not easy to lure
- Air sweepers are in the directions of my attack
- X-bows are set to ground and air

so currently still waiting for your GOVAHO strategy :o

I have been using this strategy on every base regardless of any factors because I like the challenge on harder bases. I would say those three factors can cause a few troubles. I don't factor in xbows on attacks though.

I have been posting GoVaHo videos in my other thread but I know I should write up a whole guide still. I will try to get on that. I have been spending alot of time trying to work out a partnership for streaming with kamcord and work in some collabs with other youtubers and streamers. I know I have a good following, but I am having a little bit of trouble advertising with the market being mostly dominated by the well known youtubers. Thank you for the continued support! I will work hard to provide the best strategies I can.

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Originally Posted by TommyTx

Great vids, and great attack. I think part of the reason I struggle is that I am the highest 9 in my family based clan. Nobody else has even level 2 hounds. So when I get a cc hound donation, it is level 2. I have tried again and again with 4 level 2 hounds and 26 loons, but I one star almost every time. Last war it was a spread out base with concentration of defenses at corners, hound in the castle, xbows down, level 10 queen. My DSF is upgrading but I thought I might get away with the attack not using the haste. One star was the result. Pretty sure this attack needs every component to work. Haste, 2 rage, 2 lights and an EQ, correct timing, easily dispatched or hound in CC. I will revisit this attack when I have someone to give me a higher level hound and all spells at my disposal. I don't want to give up on it because I see its potential.

I hope you don't give up on it. Although all the factors are great to have, I find myself not even needing all my spells or troops quite a bit. Hopefuly someone can help you out by upgrading their hounds. I think once learned this attack can be the easiest to use and 3 star the widest verity of bases.

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Originally Posted by RoCoStr

Yo CnB, I haven't given up on this attack and I came to a new conclusion: best pushing strategy ever! I consistently two star, more regularly three star. And hence gaining trophies on the fly.

Something else is strange though: I'm having more success with spamming my loons in a line behind the hounds, instead of surgical placement all around. I keep learning and will keep posting my findings.

Again: thanks for bringing back Air Superiority!

The snow plow method is what I like to call what you might be referring to. That will work great on a wide verity of bases. Always hold on to 3 loons or so backside a few defenses. Once you get down the surgical lay that will help on anti- 3 star type bases and spread bases. I started doing the attack with the snowplow and just letting my troops over power and lay waste to the base, but both methods work on different types of bases. My rule of thumb is snow plow on diamond and square bases, and surgical on circle or spread bases.

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