New Dark Spell : The Devolution Spell!

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January 24th, 2016
Darkmount

New Dark Spell : The Devolution Spell!

Note : Every post must have a title one out of these (like a poll) :
1. I like it.
2. Your idea is OP.
3. Needs tweaks. (You have to specify them)

NOW STARTS THE REAL POST.
The Devolution Spell is a dark spell that looks a lot like the Poison Spell.
Colour : Red
Side Decals : Downward arrows like skulls in poison.
Effect : This spell will reduce the level of any selected building (except TH, builder huts, CC and resources) and CC troops by 1 or 2 depending on level.
Ring radius : Similar to poison
Gameplay : Once selected, any tap will highlight the tapped building in white. If clicked again, the spell will drop reducing the level of that building only. However, it creates a ring near it (not affecting buildings) to reduce level of nearby CC troops.
Balancing : Only one Devolution spell can be taken in a single battle.
Level 1 defenses will not be affected.
If spell is level 2 (and reducing 2 levels), then Level 2 defenses will be turned to level 1.
Cost : 150 DE (Level 1)
200 DE (Level 2)
Time : 17.5 minutes
Upgrade cost : 42500 DE (you can change if u want :) )
Unlock : Level 4 D. Spell Factory (TH 10)
Dark Spell Factory appearance : The gold edges on Dark Spell Factory will turn to shiny ruby.

Miscellaneous : Appearance of the defense will change according to new level. The defense will transform with a glow like the shield on storages when lightning and earthquake spells are used.

Suggestions welcome!
January 24th, 2016
EnderSteve3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Note : Every post must have a title one out of these (like a poll) :
1. I like it.
2. Your idea is OP.
3. Needs tweaks. (You have to specify them)

NOW STARTS THE REAL POST.
The Devolution Spell is a dark spell that looks a lot like the Poison Spell.
Colour : Red
Side Decals : Downward arrows like skulls in poison.
Effect : This spell will reduce the level of any selected building (except TH, builder huts, CC and resources) and CC troops by 1 or 2 depending on level.
Ring radius : Similar to poison
Gameplay : Once selected, any tap will highlight the tapped building in white. If clicked again, the spell will drop reducing the level of that building only. However, it creates a ring near it (not affecting buildings) to reduce level of nearby CC troops.
Balancing : Only one Devolution spell can be taken in a single battle.
Level 1 defenses will not be affected.
If spell is level 2 (and reducing 2 levels), then Level 2 defenses will be turned to level 1.
Cost : 150 DE (Level 1)
200 DE (Level 2)
Time : 17.5 minutes
Upgrade cost : 42500 DE (you can change if u want :) )
Unlock : Level 4 D. Spell Factory (TH 10)
Dark Spell Factory appearance : The gold edges on Dark Spell Factory will turn to shiny ruby.

Miscellaneous : Appearance of the defense will change according to new level. The defense will transform with a glow like the shield on storages when lightning and earthquake spells are used.

Suggestions welcome!

Seems similar to my Frost Spell, except without Iowering levels. Not a very good idea, all people have to do is lower for infernos and its a easy 3 star if they're max
January 25th, 2016
Darkmount

How can we correct it then?

Hmmm... why don't we make a specification like only 3x3 buildings are affected or so on...
January 25th, 2016
Phyren1

Like

like the idea. but spells tend to need a radius not a target. just make a small radius to lower how many targets it can hit.
January 26th, 2016
GudduCOC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Hmmm... why don't we make a specification like only 3x3 buildings are affected or so on...

we can just make inferno towers and other buildings immune to it like it burns the healing effects:cool::cool:
January 26th, 2016
Antdroid

Extremely OP! You can carry like a million and 3 star any base!
February 19th, 2016
Darkmount

Correction!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antdroid

Extremely OP! You can carry like a million and 3 star any base!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Balancing : Only one Devolution spell can be taken in a single battle.
Level 1 defenses will not be affected.
If spell is level 2 (and reducing 2 levels), then Level 2 defenses will be turned to level 1.

Please read my post properly.
February 19th, 2016
DatFalloutGuy

I Like It

GENIUS! However, One small tweak. Same should apply to enemy Clan Castle troops!
February 19th, 2016
iPromise

A few more numbers and technical things

What is the tile radius of the spell?
I know it's similar to poison spell (4 tile radius)... Is it larger or smaller?

What is the duration of the spell? Is it permanent?

Once troops leave the spell, do they go back to normal?

How does this interact with heroes?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Hmmm... why don't we make a specification like only 3x3 buildings are affected or so on...

And if it targets the Eagle Artillery?
I think you should allow if for any building, with the HP and DPS reduction being immediate.
It would be interesting to see a th11 with 1200 Hitpoints left evaporate with this spell because it lost 1300 HP upon its devolution.
February 20th, 2016
SargeantZeal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Note : Every post must have a title one out of these (like a poll) :
1. I like it.
2. Your idea is OP.
3. Needs tweaks. (You have to specify them)

NOW STARTS THE REAL POST.
The Devolution Spell is a dark spell that looks a lot like the Poison Spell.
Colour : Red
Side Decals : Downward arrows like skulls in poison.
Effect : This spell will reduce the level of any selected building (except TH, builder huts, CC and resources) and CC troops by 1 or 2 depending on level.
Ring radius : Similar to poison
Gameplay : Once selected, any tap will highlight the tapped building in white. If clicked again, the spell will drop reducing the level of that building only. However, it creates a ring near it (not affecting buildings) to reduce level of nearby CC troops.
Balancing : Only one Devolution spell can be taken in a single battle.
Level 1 defenses will not be affected.
If spell is level 2 (and reducing 2 levels), then Level 2 defenses will be turned to level 1.
Cost : 150 DE (Level 1)
200 DE (Level 2)
Time : 17.5 minutes
Upgrade cost : 42500 DE (you can change if u want :) )
Unlock : Level 4 D. Spell Factory (TH 10)
Dark Spell Factory appearance : The gold edges on Dark Spell Factory will turn to shiny ruby.

Miscellaneous : Appearance of the defense will change according to new level. The defense will transform with a glow like the shield on storages when lightning and earthquake spells are used.

Suggestions welcome!

A properly well thought out spell. I don't really see it as something OP. 2 lvls of level reduction means this spell will only be used on ITs or future upgrades of the EA.

How much spell slot does it use?
February 20th, 2016
Darkmount

Replies to queries.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatFalloutGuy

GENIUS! However, One small tweak. Same should apply to enemy Clan Castle troops!

It will apply to CC troops. Thanks for the praise.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPromise

What is the tile radius of the spell?
I know it's similar to poison spell (4 tile radius)... Is it larger or smaller?

What is the duration of the spell? Is it permanent?

Once troops leave the spell, do they go back to normal?

How does this interact with heroes?

And if it targets the Eagle Artillery?
I think you should allow if for any building, with the HP and DPS reduction being immediate.
It would be interesting to see a th11 with 1200 Hitpoints left evaporate with this spell because it lost 1300 HP upon its devolution.

If poison radius is 4 tiles, its radius would be 4 tiles too.
Troops dont go back to normal and hero level reduced.
TH, CC, builder huts and storages not affected. As TH gives trophies, CC houses troops and resources, storages house resources and due to harm, it would automatically give you resources, thus converting DE into other resources. And builder huts dont have levels

Quote:

Originally Posted by SargeantZeal

A properly well thought out spell. I don't really see it as something OP. 2 lvls of level reduction means this spell will only be used on ITs or future upgrades of the EA.

How much spell slot does it use?

BEing a dark spell it uses only 1 slot, but for balancing you can take only 1 spell of its type for a battle. One in the spell fact or CC but not one in both.
February 20th, 2016
Darkmount

Making it clear.

Steps for use.
1. Tap any building.
2. Building gets highlighted to ask if this is the building you want to devolve.
3. If yes, click the building again. If no, click the desired building or the spell icon in selection pane.
4. After choosing a building, spell drops and devolves the building. It makes a ring around it which does NOT affect buildings lying in it but affects the CC troops inside it.
Ring lasts for the time the poison ring stays.
February 20th, 2016
iPromise

Review + One More Suggestion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

It will apply to CC troops. Thanks for the praise.

If poison radius is 4 tiles, its radius would be 4 tiles too.
Troops dont go back to normal and hero level reduced.
TH, CC, builder huts and storages not affected. As TH gives trophies, CC houses troops and resources, storages house resources and due to harm, it would automatically give you resources, thus converting DE into other resources. And builder huts dont have levels

BEing a dark spell it uses only 1 slot, but for balancing you can take only 1 spell of its type for a battle. One in the spell fact or CC but not one in both.

Ah, I see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Steps for use.
1. Tap any building.
2. Building gets highlighted to ask if this is the building you want to devolve.
3. If yes, click the building again. If no, click the desired building or the spell icon in selection pane.
4. After choosing a building, spell drops and devolves the building. It makes a ring around it which does NOT affect buildings lying in it but affects the CC troops inside it.
Ring lasts for the time the poison ring stays.

Okay. Makes things more clear.

Maybe make it so that you can devolve a hero altar (not just catch the hero in the radius)?
And if you do, then cut the relevant hero's level in half?
One level lower is pocket change when you're above th7.
Granted, it's probably not meant to be used on heroes, but still an idea.

Also, for walls. Maybe make it down 2/3 levels, and paint a target on it for troops?
I realize it's kind of like a flare in Boom Beach, and that we've already got jump and earthquake... It's just an idea.

Because to be completely honest, at the moment, I see no use for this that the poison spell and/or freeze spell can't do better, other than perhaps devolve the Eagle Artillery.
Yes, freeze is 2 spaces, but a freeze is better than a Devolution and a Haste spell.

In my opinion, the way to make this more relevant and game-changing is to make it more unique.
Give it a bit of a buff. :p

Ideas for buffs (You don't need to add all of these, but maybe just consider them):
- What I said above
- Make the radius 6. Or 5, at least.
- Make it level EVERYTHING in the radius down by a bit. Every building that is covered by it by more than 50% (more than 50% of its area is contained within the spell area) should be devolved.
February 21st, 2016
Darkmount

Answers.

Answers will be in red.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iPromise

Ah, I see.

Okay. Makes things more clear.

Maybe make it so that you can devolve a hero altar (not just catch the hero in the radius)?
And if you do, then cut the relevant hero's level in half?
One level lower is pocket change when you're above th7.
Granted, it's probably not meant to be used on heroes, but still an idea.
Half? 1 or 2 should be alright.
Also, for walls. Maybe make it down 2/3 levels, and paint a target on it for troops?
I realize it's kind of like a flare in Boom Beach, and that we've already got jump and earthquake... It's just an idea.
I think we can go for reducing level of walls in radius. But the flare function makes it OP.
Because to be completely honest, at the moment, I see no use for this that the poison spell and/or freeze spell can't do better, other than perhaps devolve the Eagle Artillery.
Yes, freeze is 2 spaces, but a freeze is better than a Devolution and a Haste spell.

In my opinion, the way to make this more relevant and game-changing is to make it more unique.
Give it a bit of a buff. :p

Ideas for buffs (You don't need to add all of these, but maybe just consider them):
- What I said above
- Make the radius 6. Or 5, at least.
- Make it level EVERYTHING in the radius down by a bit. Every building that is covered by it by more than 50% (more than 50% of its area is contained within the spell area) should be devolved.
6 spaces should be good.
I guess the building having more than half area in radius could have average damage and health.
(Health =( Health of original level + Health of reduced level)/2) and same for DPS
February 21st, 2016
iPromise

Can you make your location something happier, please? :smirk:
February 23rd, 2016
Darkmount

Its happier now. :)
February 23rd, 2016
Theking8133

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkmount

Note : Every post must have a title one out of these (like a poll) :
1. I like it.
2. Your idea is OP.
3. Needs tweaks. (You have to specify them)

NOW STARTS THE REAL POST.
The Devolution Spell is a dark spell that looks a lot like the Poison Spell.
Colour : Red
Side Decals : Downward arrows like skulls in poison.
Effect : This spell will reduce the level of any selected building (except TH, builder huts, CC and resources) and CC troops by 1 or 2 depending on level.
Ring radius : Similar to poison
Gameplay : Once selected, any tap will highlight the tapped building in white. If clicked again, the spell will drop reducing the level of that building only. However, it creates a ring near it (not affecting buildings) to reduce level of nearby CC troops.
Balancing : Only one Devolution spell can be taken in a single battle.
Level 1 defenses will not be affected.
If spell is level 2 (and reducing 2 levels), then Level 2 defenses will be turned to level 1.
Cost : 150 DE (Level 1)
200 DE (Level 2)
Time : 17.5 minutes
Upgrade cost : 42500 DE (you can change if u want :) )
Unlock : Level 4 D. Spell Factory (TH 10)
Dark Spell Factory appearance : The gold edges on Dark Spell Factory will turn to shiny ruby.

Miscellaneous : Appearance of the defense will change according to new level. The defense will transform with a glow like the shield on storages when lightning and earthquake spells are used.

Suggestions welcome!

My problem with it is, if you just bring max of them, you can beat any base. SC isn't going to make a spell which only 1 can ever be used. All spells in the past have been take as much as you want, and if a spell requires that to chance, chances are it's to OP.